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Loss Burn

Country House (18th Century) - (19th Century), Farmstead (18th Century) - (19th Century), Kiln Barn (Post Medieval)

Site Name Loss Burn

Classification Country House (18th Century) - (19th Century), Farmstead (18th Century) - (19th Century), Kiln Barn (Post Medieval)

Alternative Name(s) Loss

Canmore ID 47146

Site Number NS89NW 40.01

NGR NS 8367 9900

Datum OSGB36 - NGR

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View of farmstead from east.
View of farmstead from east.
Oblique aerial view.Oblique aerial view.The remains of the dyke commissioned from Nicol McAleister and built between July and August 1758, can  be seen in this ground view which looks SE down towards the steading at Loss.  The stone outer face of the dyke, which is fronted by a ditch, is plainly visible. Scanned for Menstrie Glen publicationIllustration showing layout of farmsteads in the Menstrie Glen. Fig 31 in "Well shelterd & watered" Menstrie Glen, a farming landscape near Stirling.Map of Loss farm. Fig 43 in "Well shelterd & watered" Menstrie Glen, a farming landscape near Stirling.Oblique aerial view.Publication drawing; plan of farmstead at Loss, with detail plan of fireplace A and reconstruction of fireplace B. View of farmstead and country house from north.View of farmstead from east.Map depicting arable land and settlement in the early 19th century. Fig 21 in "Well shelterd & watered" Menstrie Glen, a farming landscape near Stirling.View of farmstead from east.
Oblique aerial view.Oblique aerial view.Loss Burn survey drawing: plan of farmstead; reconstruction drawing and details of fireplaces.View of farmstead from east.
Details from OS 1st, 2nd and 3rd editions of Loss and Jerah farmsteads. Fig 35 in "Well shelterd & watered" Menstrie Glen, a farming landscape near Stirling.Detail of fireplace (c.1680-1700) in east end of dwelling.View of farmstead and country house from north.View of farmstead and country house from north.Map showing distribution of settlements in Menstrie Glen before the 1760s with head-dykes and cultivated ground. Fig 11 in "Well shelterd & watered" Menstrie Glen, a farming landscape near Stirling.Detail of fireplace (c.1680-1700) in east end of dwelling.View of farmstead from east.Oblique aerial view.View of farmstead and country house from north.

Administrative Areas

  • Council Stirling
  • Parish Logie (Stirling)
  • Former Region Central
  • Former District Stirling
  • Former County Stirlingshire

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Note (27 August 1996)

A farmstead, which comprises a roofed courtyard steading is depicted on the 1st edition of the OS 6-inch map (Stirlingshire sheet x, 1865). Two roofless buildings, on the E and S sides of the yard are shown on the current edition of the OS 1:100000 map (1978).

Information from RCAHMS (PM) 27 August 1996

Field Visit (21 May 1997)

NS89NW 40.01 8367 9900

The mortared-rubble footings of a farmstead, comprising a dwelling, byre and barn ranged around a square yard and garden enclosures to the S and E, are situated on a ridge between the Crunie Burn and the Loss Burn. The farmstead originates as a summer residence, built in the mid-18th century by J. Wright. An undated early 19th century plan (SRO RHP 20943) depicts two buildings, lying at right-angles to each other. The location of the western building corresponds to the dwelling house of the farmstead and there is every reason to believe that it is the same structure. The second building has been demolished and may have lain on the W side of the garden enclosure to the E of the farmstead. The dwelling, referred to by Wright as 'the mansion house' is built of mortared rubble, measuring 12m by 4.6m internally with no remaining indications of subdivisions, although the provision of a fireplace in both end walls and the middle of the N side, suggests at least three compartments. The S side of the building has been largely robbed, removing the doorway and windows. The fireplace in the E end has a curved side and fine mouldings, and is probably of mid-18th century date. At the W end of the building there is an outshot, measuring 4.4m square and entered from the S. The ONB (1865-6) records that it was a single storey structure and does no mention an attic. It is clear from documentation of rebuilding work during the mid-18th century that there was a second floor (information from John Harrison), but this may have been removed by the mid-19th century.

The depiction of the farmstead on the 1st edition of the OS 6-inch map (Perthshire and Clackmanannshire 1865-6, sheet cxxxiii; Parts of Stirlingshire 1865-6, sheets x and xi) shows the courtyard steading and the Name Book records that the one storey farmsteading is unoccupied and partly in ruins. All the buildings have a similar character, with dressed sandstone door jambs throughout and they have bonded junctions with the enclosure wall. This might indicate a single phase of construction but the documentation for the mid-18th century building work refers to digging out the founds and part of the building may have been largely demolished and bonded into the additional structures.

A two-compartment building lies along the E side of the courtyard. The S compartment has two entrances, one on the S, the other opening into the yard on the W. A ragged wall line subdivides the interior from E to W, and may post-date the dereliction of the building as it appears to ride up over debris from the walls. The N compartment has opposed entrances and may have been a barn. The junction between the barn and the dwelling is bonded, although there are differences in the stonework which suggest that the corner of the dwelling was taken down when the barn was built.

Along the N side of the yard there is a low stony platform, corresponding with a roofed structure shown on the 1st edition of the OS 6-inch map, perhaps an open fronted shed. The yard is slightly dished, with a low platform along the N side of the dwelling but there is none of the scouring or vegetational differences to suggest that it has been a midden.

A two compartment building lies along the W side of the yard. A byre drain runs diagonally across the interior of the S compartment, into which there are two opposed entrances, the eastern of which, leading into the yard, has been blocked. There is access from the NW corner of the byre to the N compartment, which also has an entrance in the E side. A pen in the NE corner and several other, possibly structural, dumps of stone obscure the interior of the compartment.

A kiln-barn to NE of farmsteading may be a relict of a settlement predating the mid-18th century Mansion House. The bowl measures 2.1m in diameter, with a barn to the S.

(MENS97 102-4, 107, 108)

Visited by RCAHMS (DCC) 21 May 1997

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