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Ardenlea: Toward Point, Upper Firth Of Clyde

Barque (19th Century)

Site Name Ardenlea: Toward Point, Upper Firth Of Clyde

Classification Barque (19th Century)

Alternative Name(s) Arden Lea; Kirkfindlay Cove; Inner Clyde Estuary

Canmore ID 112320

Site Number NS16NW 8007

NGR NS 135 670

NGR Description NR c. 135 670

Datum Datum not recorded

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Administrative Areas

  • Council Argyll And Bute
  • Parish Maritime - Argyll And Bute
  • Former Region Strathclyde
  • Former District Maritime
  • Former County Not Applicable

Archaeology Notes

NS16NW 8007 c. 135 670

N55 51.6 W4 58.8

NLO: Toward Point [name: NS 135 670].

Formerly entered as NS16NW 9395 at cited location NS1416 6612 [N55 51.15 W4 58.15].

Not to be confused with NS28SE 8027.

22 November 1881, ARDENLEA, 22 yrs old, of Greenock, wooden barque, 1,217 tons, 15 crew, Master J. Gregory, Owner J. Brymner, Greenock, departed Greenock for Cardiff, in ballast, wind WSW10, stranded, total loss, Kirkfindlay Cove, near Toward Point, Argyllshire.

Source: PP Abstracts Returns of Wrecks and Casualties on Coasts of the UK 1881-82 (1883 [C.3487] LXIII.135).

Greenock, Nov. 24, 12.5 p.m., ARDENLEA lies on her broadside on a sandy beach about low watermark, nearly on her beam ends, mainmast over side taking head of foremast and breaking mizen topmast: water ebbs and flows into ship. Owner's representative arranged yesterday for salving spars and gear. Heavy gale. Impossible for salvors to do anything. [Record received impossible].

NMRS, MS/829/69 (no. 3225).

(Classified as wooden [full-rigged] ship, in ballast: date of loss cited as 22 November 1881). Arden Lea: this vessel stranded at Kirkfindlay Cove, near Toward Point. Capt. Gregory. (5/4/1880?)

Registration: Greenock. Built 1859. 1264grt. Length: 57m. Beam: 11m.

(Location of loss cited as N55 56.75 W4 58.0).

I G Whittaker 1998.

The location assigned to this record is essentially tentative. Kirkfindlay Cove is not noted as such on the 1995 edition of the OS 1:50,000 map. Toward Point Lighthouse (NS16NW 12.00) is at NS 13623 67226.

The form of the vessel's name that is cited in the primary account is preferred.

Information from RCAHMS (RJCM), 2 July 2004.

Activities

Loss (22 November 1881)

22 November 1881, ARDENLEA, 22 yrs old, of Greenock, wooden barque, 1,217 tons, 15 crew, Master J. Gregory, Owner J. Brymner, Greenock, departed Greenock for Cardiff, in ballast, wind WSW10, stranded, total loss, Kirkfindlay Cove, near Toward Point, Argyllshire.

Source: PP Abstracts Returns of Wrecks and Casualties on Coasts of the UK 1881-82 (1883 [C.3487] LXIII.135).

Greenock, Nov. 24, 12.5 p.m., ARDENLEA lies on her broadside on a sandy beach about low watermark, nearly on her beam ends, mainmast over side taking head of foremast and breaking mizen topmast: water ebbs and flows into ship. Owner's representative arranged yesterday for salving spars and gear. Heavy gale. Impossible for salvors to do anything. [Record received impossible].

NMRS, MS/829/69 (no. 3225).

(Classified as wooden [full-rigged] ship, in ballast: date of loss cited as 22 November 1881). Arden Lea: this vessel stranded at Kirkfindlay Cove, near Toward Point. Capt. Gregory. (5/4/1880?)

Registration: Greenock. Built 1859. 1264grt. Length: 57m. Beam: 11m.

(Location of loss cited as N55 56.75 W4 58.0).

I G Whittaker 1998.

Note (2 July 2004)

The location assigned to this record is essentially tentative. Kirkfindlay Cove is not noted as such on the 1995 edition of the OS 1:50,000 map. Toward Point Lighthouse (NS16NW 12.00) is at NS 13623 67226.

The form of the vessel's name that is cited in the primary account is preferred.

Information from RCAHMS (RJCM), 2 July 2004.

Reference (2011)

Whittaker ID : 448

Name : ARDEN LEA

Latitude : 555645

Longitude : 45800

Date Built : 1859

Registration : GREENOCK

Type : SHIP (WOOD)

Tonnage : 1264

Tonnage Code : G

Length : 57

Beam : 11

Loss Day : 22

Loss Month : 11

Loss Year : 1881

Comment : Stranded Kirkfindlay Cove nr Toward Pt. Capt. Gregory (5/4/1880?)

Cargo : BALLAST

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