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Doris: Doon Castle Point, Ardwell Bay, North Channel
Steam Trawler (20th Century), Trawler (20th Century)
Site Name Doris: Doon Castle Point, Ardwell Bay, North Channel
Classification Steam Trawler (20th Century), Trawler (20th Century)
Alternative Name(s) Ardwell Point; Mull Of Logan; Irish Sea; Doris
Canmore ID 101694
Site Number NX04SE 8010
NGR NX 06457 44541
Datum WGS84 - Lat/Long
Permalink http://canmore.org.uk/site/101694
- Council Dumfries And Galloway
- Parish Maritime - Dumfries And Galloway
- Former Region Dumfries And Galloway
- Former District Maritime
- Former County Not Applicable
NX04SE 8010 0645 4453
N54 45.5 W5 .5
NLO: Ardwell Point [name: NX 066 448]
Castle Point [name: NX 066 446]
Ardwell Bay [name centred NX 069 451].
Formerly entered as NX04SE 8103.
(Location of wreckage cited as N54 45.63 W5 0.40).
P C Miller 1992.
Horizontal Datum = UND
Surveying Details
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10 July 75. A wreck is reported at position 54 45 30N, 005 00 30W on Ardwell Point. The wreck is well broken up with small sections of about 15 -20 cms showing above the sand. The area is littered with bits and pieces of metal, including a small broken anchor. The bottom is extremely rocky. The vessel is thought to be small and mechanically propelled. Site sketch supplied in letter from A. Newton, St.Helens.
26 July 1975. Possibly the wreck of the DORIS is reported at 54 45 36N, 005 00 27W.
Source: letter from P. C. Miller dated 18 July 1975.
18 March 1976. The wreck lies either side of a large rock, just off shore, in not more than 7 metres of water. It is scattered over an area of approx 20 square metres. No highpoints of any significance are reported. The site was identified from a newspaper report, and also the ship builders plate which gave the name of the ship builders who installed the trawl gear.
Source: letter from PC Miller dated 15 October 1975.
Hydrographic Office 1995.
(Classified as wooden steam trawler, in ballast; date of loss cited as 13 November 1914). Doris: this vessel stranded at Doon Castle Point, near Ardwell Bay. Capt Stevens.
Registration: Fleetwood. Built 1902. 79grt.
(Location of loss cited as N54 45.62 W5 0.40).
I G Whittaker 1998.
The location assigned to this record remains unverified. Doon Castle Point is presumably to be equated with Castle Point, which is situated about 250m S of Ardwell Point, and forms the S corner of the same headland. Doon Castle broch (NX04SE 1) is at NX 06702 44683.
UKHO chart no. 2198 (1978, revised 1987) indicates no wreck in this vicinity, but depicts the shore as dropping off to a rocky seabed at a charted depth of about 12m.
The equation of the observed wreckage with the recorded loss of the Doris is accepted.
Information from RCAHMS (RJCM), 25 February 2004.
Loss (13 November 1914)
(Classified as wooden steam trawler, in ballast; date of loss cited as 13 November 1914). Doris: this vessel stranded at Doon Castle Point, near Ardwell Bay. Capt Stevens.
Registration: Fleetwood. Built 1902. 79grt.
(Location of loss cited as N54 45.62 W5 0.40).
I G Whittaker 1998.
Evidence Of Loss (10 July 1975)
(Location of wreckage cited as N54 45.63 W5 0.40).
P C Miller 1992.
Horizontal Datum = UND
Surveying Details
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10 July 75. A wreck is reported at position 54 45 30N, 005 00 30W on Ardwell Point. The wreck is well broken up with small sections of about 15 -20 cms showing above the sand. The area is littered with bits and pieces of metal, including a small broken anchor. The bottom is extremely rocky. The vessel is thought to be small and mechanically propelled. Site sketch supplied in letter from A. Newton, St.Helens.
26 July 1975. Possibly the wreck of the DORIS is reported at 54 45 36N, 005 00 27W.
Source: letter from P. C. Miller dated 18 July 1975.
18 March 1976. The wreck lies either side of a large rock, just off shore, in not more than 7 metres of water. It is scattered over an area of approx 20 square metres. No highpoints of any significance are reported. The site was identified from a newspaper report, and also the ship builders plate which gave the name of the ship builders who installed the trawl gear.
Source: letter from PC Miller dated 15 October 1975.
Hydrographic Office 1995.
Note (25 February 2004)
The location assigned to this record remains unverified. Doon Castle Point is presumably to be equated with Castle Point, which is situated about 250m S of Ardwell Point, and forms the S corner of the same headland. Doon Castle broch (NX04SE 1) is at NX 06702 44683.
UKHO chart no. 2198 (1978, revised 1987) indicates no wreck in this vicinity, but depicts the shore as dropping off to a rocky seabed at a charted depth of about 12m.
The equation of the observed wreckage with the recorded loss of the Doris is accepted.
Information from RCAHMS (RJCM), 25 February 2004.
Reference (2011)
Whittaker ID : 4478
Name : DORIS
Latitude : 544537
Longitude : 50024
Date Built : 1902
Registration : FLEETWOOD
Type : STEAM TRAWLER(WOOD)
Tonnage : 79
Tonnage Code : G
Loss Day : 13
Loss Month : 11
Loss Year : 1914
Comment : Stranded at Doon Castle Point, near Ardwell Bay. Capt. Stevens (LOWESTOFT ?)
Cargo : BALLAST
Reference (19 April 2012)
UKHO Identifier : 005151
Feature Class : Wreck
Wreck Category : Non-dangerous wreck
State : LIVE
Classification : Unclassified
Position (Lat/long) : 54.75833,-5.00833
Horizontal Datum : ORDNANCE SURVEY OF GREAT BRITAIN (1936)
WGS84 Position (Lat/long) : 54.75841,-5.00945
WGS84 Origin : 3-D Cartesian Shift (BW)
Previous Position : 54.75833,-5.00833
Position Quality : Precisely known
Depth Quality : Depth unknown
Water Depth : 10
Vertical Datum : Lowest Astronomical Tide
Name : DORIS
Type : S TRAWLER
Flag : BRITISH
Sonar Length : 20.0
Sonar Width : 20.0
Tonnage : 79
Tonnage Type : Gross
Date Sunk : 13/11/1914
Contact Description : Notable debris
Original Sensor : None reported
Last Sensor : Diver Sighting
Original Detection Year : 1975
Last Detection Year : 1975
Original Source : Other
Last Source : Divers
Circumstances of Loss : **BUILT OF WOOD IN 1902. OWNED BY THE DORIS FISHING CO, FLEETWOOD. ONE BOILER, TRIPLE EXPANSION ENGINE, SINGLE SHAFT. PASSAGE BELFAST FOR FLEETWOOD. SEEN TO BE IN DIFFICULTIES FROM THE SHORE IN A GALE. PORTPATRICK LIFEBOAT ATTENDED BUT CREW UNWILLING TO LEAVE THE VESSEL & LIFEBOAT RETURNED TO BASE. THE MASTER SURVIVED, THREE MEN LOST. (SIBI).
Surveying Details : **H1285/75 10.7.75 WRECK REPD IN 544530N, 050030W [OGB] ON ARDWELL PT. WK IS WELL BROKEN UP WITH SMALL SECTIONS OF ABOUT 6-8 INCHES SHOWING ABOVE THE SAND. AREA LITTERED WITH BITS & PIECES OF METAL INCLUDING A SMALL BROKEN ANCHOR. THE BOTTOM IS EXTREMELY ROCKY. VESSEL IS THOUGHT TO BE SMALL & MECHANICALLY PROPELLED. (A NEWTON, LTR).
**H1287/75 26.8.75 POSSIBLY THE WRECK OF THE DORIS IN 544536N, 050027W [OGB]. (P C MILLER, LTR DTD 18.8.75).
**H1288/75 18.3.76 WRECK LIES EITHER SIDE OF A LARGE ROCK JUST OFFSHORE IN NOT MORE THAN 7MTRS OF WATER. SCATTERED OVER AN AREA OF APPROX 20 SQUARE MTRS. NO HIGH POINTS OF ANY SIGNIFICANCE. IDENTIFIED FROM NEWSPAPER REPORT AND ALSO THE SHIP BUILDER'S PLATE WHICH GAVE THE NAME OF THE BUILDERS WHO INSTALLED THE TRAWL GEAR. (P C MILLER, LTR DTD 15.10.75).
POSITIONS BELOW THIS POINT ARE IN DEGREES, MINUTES AND DECIMALS OF A MINUTE
**10.12.01 RECORD REVIEWED. INS AS NDW. BR STD.
General Comments : WOODEN HULL, WELL BROKEN UP, DIMENSIONS BY DIVER
Chart Symbol : NDW
Date Last Amended : 10/12/2001
Date Position Last Amended : 10/12/2001
