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River Tay: Eilean Rubha An Ridire, Sound Of Mull

Fishing Vessel, Steam Trawler (20th Century)

Site Name River Tay: Eilean Rubha An Ridire, Sound Of Mull

Classification Fishing Vessel, Steam Trawler (20th Century)

Alternative Name(s) Gn 54; Henry Butcher; Inninmore Bay; Innismore Point; River Tay; River Tay (Gn 54) (Ex. Henry Butcher)

Canmore ID 102572

Site Number NM74SW 8008

NGR NM 72278 40626

NGR Description NM c. 723 406

Datum WGS84 - Lat/Long

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  • Council Highland
  • Parish Maritime - Highland
  • Former Region Highland
  • Former District Maritime
  • Former County Not Applicable

Archaeology Notes

NM74SW 8008 c. 723 406

N56 30.1 W5 42

NLO: Eilean Rubha an Ridire [name: NM 725 405]

Inninmore Bay [name centred NM 721 417]

Sound of Mull [name centred NM 58 46].

Formerly entered as Site no's 8007 and 8580 at cited location NM 6623 4103 [N56 30.2 W5 47.95] and also as NM74SW 8004.

Cross Ref: ALEKSANDR [NM74SW 8007].

For associated salvage vessel (Ballista), see NM74SW 8003.

For further vessel (possibly to be equated with the River Tay) under Ballista, see NM74SW 8014.

Quality of fix = PA

Horizontal Datum = UND

General water depth = 30

Circumstances of Loss Details

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The vesel was not listed in the DIctionary of Disasters at Sea or Lloyds War Loss books.

Surveying Details

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A position for the wreck was given as 56 30 00N, 005 42 00W.

Source: authority not stated.

14 January 1974. The position and area were sounded out, but nothing located.

Hydrographic Office 1995.

(Classified as steel, steam trawler: registration number cited as GN 54, former name as Henry Butcher, and date of loss as 24 November 1943). River Tay: this vessel was ashore at Innismore [Inninmore] Point. All gone, but constructive total loss.

Registration: Granton. Built 1918. 203grt. Length: 35m. Beam: 7m.

(Location of loss cited as N56 30.00 W5 42.00).

I G Whittaker 1998.

(Location changed to NM c. 723 406: N56 30.1 W5 42). The location assigned to this record remains essentially tentative.

That suggested by the Hydrographic Office appears indeterminate, and the location of this vessel was presumably close to that of the associated salvage vessel (Ballista), for which see NM74SW 8003.

The location cited by Whittaker appears uncertain. Innismore or Inninmore Point is not noted as such on the 1996 edition of the OS 1:50,000 map. Inninmore Bay is a shallow and ill-defined indentation on the NE side of the Sound of Mull, and extends from NM 70 42 to NM 73 40.

Information from RCAHMS (RJCM), 19 March 2002.

Activities

Loss (24 November 1943)

(Classified as steel, steam trawler: registration number cited as GN 54, former name as Henry Butcher, and date of loss as 24 November 1943). River Tay: this vessel was ashore at Innismore [Inninmore] Point. All gone, but constructive total loss.

Registration: Granton. Built 1918. 203grt. Length: 35m. Beam: 7m.

(Location of loss cited as N56 30.00 W5 42.00).

I G Whittaker 1998.

Named Location (Nlo) (19 June 1995)

NLO: Eilean Rubha an Ridire [name: NM 725 405]

Inninmore Bay [name centred NM 721 417]

Sound of Mull [name centred NM 58 46].

Formerly entered as NM64SE 8007 and 8580 at cited location NM 6623 4103 [N56 30.2 W5 47.95] and also as NM74SW 8004.

Cross Ref: ALEKSANDR [NM74SW 8007].

For associated salvage vessel (Ballista), see NM74SW 8003.

For further vessel (possibly to be equated with the River Tay) under Ballista, see NM74SW 8014.

Evidence Of Loss (1995)

Quality of fix = PA

Horizontal Datum = UND

General water depth = 30

Circumstances of Loss Details

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The vesel was not listed in the DIctionary of Disasters at Sea or Lloyds War Loss books.

Surveying Details

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A position for the wreck was given as 56 30 00N, 005 42 00W.

Source: authority not stated.

14 January 1974. The position and area were sounded out, but nothing located.

Hydrographic Office 1995.

Note (19 March 2002)

(Location changed to NM c. 723 406: N56 30.1 W5 42). The location assigned to this record remains essentially tentative.

That suggested by the Hydrographic Office appears indeterminate, and the location of this vessel was presumably close to that of the associated salvage vessel (Ballista), for which see NM74SW 8003.

The location cited by Whittaker appears uncertain. Innismore or Inninmore Point is not noted as such on the 1996 edition of the OS 1:50,000 map. Inninmore Bay is a shallow and ill-defined indentation on the NE side of the Sound of Mull, and extends from NM 70 42 to NM 73 40.

Information from RCAHMS (RJCM), 19 March 2002.

Reference (2011)

Whittaker ID : 1987

Name : RIVER TAY (GN 54) (EX. HENRY BUTCHER)

Latitude : 563000

Longitude : 54200

Date Built : 1918

Registration : GRANTON

Type : STEAM TRAWLER(STEEL)

Tonnage : 203

Tonnage Code : G

Length : 35

Beam : 7

Draught : 3m

Loss Day : 24

Loss Month : 11

Loss Year : 1943

Comment : Ashore at Innismore Pt. AG but CTL

Reference (19 April 2012)

UKHO Identifier : 002710

Feature Class : Wreck

State : LIVE

Classification : Unclassified

Position (Lat/long) : 56.50260,-5.70082

Horizontal Datum : ORDNANCE SURVEY OF GREAT BRITAIN (1936)

WGS84 Position (Lat/long) : 56.50243,-5.70191

WGS84 Origin : 3-D Cartesian Shift (BW)

Previous Position : 56.50000,-5.70000

Position Quality : Precisely known

Depth Quality : Depth unknown

Water Depth : 10

Vertical Datum : Mean Low Water Springs

Name : RIVER TAY

Type : S FISHING

Flag : BRITISH

Length : 35.1

Beam : 6.7

Draught : 3.7

Tonnage : 203

Tonnage Type : Gross

Date Sunk : 29/11/1943

Bottom Texture : Rock

Contact Description : Entire wreck

Original Sensor : Reported Sinking

Last Sensor : Diver Sighting

Original Detection Year : 1943

Last Detection Year : 1982

Original Source : Other

Last Source : Other

Circumstances of Loss : **EX-HENRY BUTCHER. BUILT IN 1918 BY HALL, RUSSEL & CO LTD, ABERDEEN. OWNED AT TIME OF LOSS BY G G PATON. GRANTON. ONE BOILER, TRIPLE EXPANSION ENGINE OF 57HP. SINGLE SHAFT. PASSAGE GRANTON FOR FISHING AND RETURN. DROVE ASHORE IN A GALE AFTER ENGINE BREAKDOWN. ONE REPORT SUGGESTS BUNKERS WERE THROWN OVERBOARD AND VESSEL REFLOATED HERSELF, HOWEVER LLOYDS CASUALTY REGISTER SUGGESTS WK REMAINED ON THE ROCKS. (SIBI).

Surveying Details : **SINKING POSN GIVEN AS 563000N, 054200W. SEE ALSO ALEKSANDAR [2711].

**H5249/73 14.1.74 POSN AND AREA SOUNDED OUT, NOTHING LOCATED. (BOAT PARTY, NP 5640). NCA.

**6.12.82 BALLISTA [2712], DESCRIBED AS A PUFFER. REPORTED AS INTACT, LYING UPRIGHT, ON TOP OF 2 OTHER WKS, ONE A STEEL DRIFTER, 80FT LONG. THIS IS POSSIBLY THE ARDFERN, WHICH SANK 1950 (SEE ALEXANDER [2711]). THE LOWEST WK IS AN 80FT IRON VESSEL. RIBS OF A FURTHER IRON WK LIES CLOSE TO NE. (BSAC WK REGISTER).

POSITIONS BELOW THIS POINT ARE IN DEGREES, MINUTES AND DECIMALS OF A MINUTE

**12.1.09 DATA RE-ASSESSED. WK LIES BENEATH THE BALLISTA [2712] & ALEXANDER [2711]. POSN AMENDED TO 5630.156N, 0542.049W. COVERED BY [2712]. NCA.

Charting Comments : EXISTING SCALES TOO SMALL COVERED BY [2712]

Date Last Amended : 28/10/2010

Date Position Last Amended : 12/01/2009

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