Karen: Largo Bay, Firth Of Forth
Auxiliary Schooner (20th Century), Schooner (20th Century)
Site Name Karen: Largo Bay, Firth Of Forth
Classification Auxiliary Schooner (20th Century), Schooner (20th Century)
Alternative Name(s) Willemoes; Havet; Largo; Methil; Outer Forth Estuary; Karen
Canmore ID 96710
Site Number NT39NE 8002
NGR NT 39230 99513
Datum WGS84 - Lat/Long
Permalink http://canmore.org.uk/site/96710
- Council Fife
- Parish Maritime - Fife
- Former Region Fife
- Former District Maritime
- Former County Not Applicable
NT39NE 8002 3922 9951
N56 11.0667 W2 58.75
NLO: Largo Bay [name centred NO 42 01]
Methil [name: NT 37 99].
Formerly entered as NT39NE 8008, NT39NE 8179 and NT39NE 8185.
Evidence = Swept by Wire (Two Ship/Boat Drift/Drag Sweep)
Horizontal Datum = OGB
General water depth = 5
Hydrographic Office 1995.
(Classified as Motor Schooner: no cargo specified, but date of loss cited as 5 February 1940). Karen: [no text entry].
Registration: Danish. 331grt. Length: 39m. Beam: 9m.
(Location of loss cited as N56 11.07 W2 58.75).
I G Whittaker 1998.
Reference (2011)
Whittaker ID : 1346
Name : KAREN
Latitude : 561104
Longitude : 25845
Registration : DANISH
Type : MOTOR SCHOONER
Tonnage : 331
Tonnage Code : G
Length : 39
Beam : 9
Draught : 4m
Position : Exact Position
Loss Day : 5
Loss Month : 2
Loss Year : 1940
Reference (19 April 2012)
UKHO Identifier : 002953
Feature Class : Wreck
Wreck Category : Dangerous wreck
State : LIVE
Classification : Unclassified
Position (Lat/long) : 56.18435,-2.98063
Horizontal Datum : ETRS 1989
WGS84 Position (Lat/long) : 56.18435,-2.98063
WGS84 Origin : Block Shift
Previous Position : 56.18445,-2.97917
Position Quality : Precisely known
Depth : 5.3
Depth Method : Swept by wire-drag
Depth Quality : Least depth known
Water Depth : 6
Water Level Effect : Always under water/submerged
Vertical Datum : Lowest Astronomical Tide
Name : KAREN
Type : AUX M SCHOONER
Flag : DANISH
Length : 39.6
Beam : 8.8
Draught : 4.0
Tonnage : 331
Tonnage Type : Gross
Cargo : COAL
Date Sunk : 05/02/1940
Contact Description : Entire wreck
Original Sensor : Reported Sinking
Last Sensor : Physical Snag
Original Detection Year : 1940
Last Detection Year : 1950
Original Source : Other
Last Source : Survey Vessel
Circumstances of Loss : **EX-WILLEMOES, EX-HAVET. BUILT OF WOOD IN 1920 BY CHRISTENSEN,KRAGH, V KOLDING. OWNED AT TIME OF LOSS BY M PEDERSEN. PASSAGE TEES FOR COPENHAGEN. CAUGHT FIRE AFTER EXPLOSION IN HOLD, BURNT OUT AND SANK AT METHIL. TOTAL LOSS. (SIBI & SHIPWRECKS OF THE FORTH).
Surveying Details : **H622/40 15.2.40 DW IN 561100N, 025800W APPROX, OR 073DEG, 1.1M FROM METHIL PIER LT. (NCSO METHIL CG.ELIE). - TNM 418/40 ISSUED.
**H622/40 27.2.40 DW, MARKED BY G CONL LT BUOY, GPFL(3)G CLOSE SE. (NCSO METHIL). - NM 524/40.
**H622/40 11.8.50 WIRE SWEPT TO LEAST DEPTH 3FMS IN 561104N, 025845W. BUOY REMOVED. (NLB & HMS SHARPSHOOTER). - NM 1578/50.
**H2618/60 28.7.60 NOT LOCATED. (HMS SCOTT 1959). NCA.
**12.10.76 NOW CHARTED AS WK SW 5.3MTRS [LAT]. NC 734.
POSITIONS BELOW THIS POINT ARE IN DEGREES, MINUTES AND DECIMALS OF A MINUTE
**14.12.05 EUT POSN: 5611.061N, 0258.838W. NE 741.
Chart Symbol : WK SW 5.3
