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Phaeacian: Firth Of Forth
Steamship (20th Century)
Site Name Phaeacian: Firth Of Forth
Classification Steamship (20th Century)
Alternative Name(s) 'Off Elie'; Elie Ness; Kincraig Fort; Kincraig Point; Outer Forth Estuary; Phaeacian
Canmore ID 96663
Site Number NT49NE 8001
NGR NT 46627 96107
Datum WGS84 - Lat/Long
Permalink http://canmore.org.uk/site/96663
- Council Fife
- Parish Maritime - Fife
- Former Region Fife
- Former District Maritime
- Former County Not Applicable
NT49NE 8001 4662 9610
N56 9.2833 W2 51.5583
NLO: Elie [name: NT 493 997]
Elie Ness [name: NT 496 993]
Kincraig Point [name: NT 465 995].
Formerly entered as Site no. 8132.
Quality of fix = 0015
Evidence = Swept by Wire(Single Ship/Boat Drift Sweep)
Horizontal Datum = OGB
General water depth = 29
Orientation of keel/wreck = 010/190
Circumstances of Loss Details
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The vessel sank following a collision with the British super tanker SAN ZOTICO. It was taken in tow by a tug but sank shortly afterwards.
Surveying Details
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10 October 1943. Reported position of loss is 182 degrees, 3794 metres from Kincraig Fort.
28 July 1960. The wreck is located but not swept. The least clear water depth by echosounder is 27.4 metres.
24 May 1977. The site is known locally as the 6 fathom wreck. Source; Dunbar Coastguard.
6 August 1986. Visually inspected by divers and apparently now broken into 3 parts, which stand no more than 4 metres high in a general water depth of 30 metres. The position conversion from DECCA to Lat/Long gives 56 09 20N, 002 51 32W.
25 January 1994. The site was examined on the 22 August 1993 at 56 09 17.1N, 002 51 33.7W. The site swept clear at 25.4 metres, but fouled the wire at 25.8 metres. The least clear water depth by echosounder was 25.6 metres in a general water depth of 28.7-29.4 metres. A scour pit was observed to the depth of 29.5 metres. The side scan sonar trace gave the wreck's height at 4 metres, length 64 metres (210 feet), and breadth 15 metres (49 feet). The vessel is broken up, but the keel orientation is 010/190 degrees. Report by Oceonics (UK) Ltd.
Hydrographic Office 1995.
Loss (29 September 1943)
(Classified as steel steamship: no cargo specified, but date of loss cited as 29 September 1943). Phaeacian: [this vessel was in] collision and sank off Elie (San Zotico).
Registration: Harwich. Built 1920. 480grt. Length: 44m. Beam: 8m.
(Location of loss cited as N56 9.40 W2 51.70).
I G Whittaker 1998.
Evidence Of Loss (1995)
Quality of fix = 0015
Evidence = Swept by Wire(Single Ship/Boat Drift Sweep)
Horizontal Datum = OGB
General water depth = 29
Orientation of keel/wreck = 010/190
Circumstances of Loss Details
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The vessel sank following a collision with the British super tanker SAN ZOTICO. It was taken in tow by a tug but sank shortly afterwards.
Surveying Details
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10 October 1943. Reported position of loss is 182 degrees, 3794 metres from Kincraig Fort.
28 July 1960. The wreck is located but not swept. The least clear water depth by echosounder is 27.4 metres.
24 May 1977. The site is known locally as the 6 fathom wreck. Source; Dunbar Coastguard.
6 August 1986. Visually inspected by divers and apparently now broken into 3 parts, which stand no more than 4 metres high in a general water depth of 30 metres. The position conversion from DECCA to Lat/Long gives 56 09 20N, 002 51 32W.
25 January 1994. The site was examined on the 22 August 1993 at 56 09 17.1N, 002 51 33.7W. The site swept clear at 25.4 metres, but fouled the wire at 25.8 metres. The least clear water depth by echosounder was 25.6 metres in a general water depth of 28.7-29.4 metres. A scour pit was observed to the depth of 29.5 metres. The side scan sonar trace gave the wreck's height at 4 metres, length 64 metres (210 feet), and breadth 15 metres (49 feet). The vessel is broken up, but the keel orientation is 010/190 degrees. Report by Oceonics (UK) Ltd.
Hydrographic Office 1995.
External Reference (2009)
(Location cited as N56 9.20 W2 52.32 [WGS-84 N56 9.288 W2 51.655]: alternative and formerly-cited locations listed].
(Brief record of cirumstances of loss, situation, surviving remains and condition of wreck).
B Baird 2009.
Reference (2011)
Whittaker ID : 1345
Name : PHAEACIAN
Latitude : 560924
Longitude : 25142
Date Built : 1920
Registration : HARWICH
Type : SS (STEEL)
Tonnage : 480
Tonnage Code : G
Length : 44
Beam : 8
Draught : 3m
Position : Exact Position
Loss Day : 29
Loss Month : 9
Loss Year : 1943
Comment : Collision & sunk off Elie (SAN ZOTICO)
Reference (19 April 2012)
UKHO Identifier : 002936
Feature Class : Wreck
Wreck Category : Dangerous wreck
State : LIVE
Classification : Unclassified
Position (Lat/long) : 56.15472,-2.85931
Horizontal Datum : ORDNANCE SURVEY OF GREAT BRITAIN (1936)
WGS84 Position (Lat/long) : 56.15464,-2.86078
WGS84 Origin : 3-D Cartesian Shift (BW)
Previous Position : 56.15555,-2.85888
Position Method : Electronic Distance Measuring System
Position Quality : Surveyed
Position Accuracy : 13.0
Depth : 25.0
Depth Method : Swept by wire-drag
Depth Quality : Least depth known
Water Depth : 29
Water Level Effect : Always under water/submerged
Vertical Datum : Lowest Astronomical Tide
Name : PHAEACIAN
Type : SS
Flag : BRITISH
Length : 43.9
Beam : 7.6
Draught : 3.4
Sonar Length : 64.0
Sonar Width : 15.0
Shadow Height : 4.0
Orientation : 10.0
Tonnage : 480
Tonnage Type : Gross
Cargo : 350 TONS TIMBER
Date Sunk : 29/09/1943
Scour Depth : 0.1
Contact Description : Entire wreck
Original Sensor : Reported Sinking
Last Sensor : Physical Snag
Named Location (Nlo) (2 March 2012)
NLO: Elie [name: NT 493 997]
Elie Ness [name: NT 496 993]
Kincraig Point [name: NT 465 995].
Formerly entered as NT49NE 8132.
Note (2 March 2012)
(Location entered as NT 4662 9610 [N56 9.2833 W2 51.5583]). UKHO chart no. 734 (1993, revised 1995) charts this wreck as wire-swept to 25m depth on an uneven seabed at a depth of about 30m which slopes to the S. A mixed seabed of gravel, sand and mud over rock is charted immediately to the S.
The cited location lies 2.35nm SW of Elie Ness.
Information from RCAHMS (RJCM), 2 March 2012.