Unknown: North Queensferry, Firth Of Forth
Boiler (19th Century), Craft (19th Century)(Possible), Obstruction, Steamship (19th Century)
Site Name Unknown: North Queensferry, Firth Of Forth
Classification Boiler (19th Century), Craft (19th Century)(Possible), Obstruction, Steamship (19th Century)
Alternative Name(s) Queensferry Narrows; Outer Forth Estuary; Telesilla (Remains Of) (Probably)
Canmore ID 96643
Site Number NT18SW 8001
NGR NT 12625 80167
Datum WGS84 - Lat/Long
Permalink http://canmore.org.uk/site/96643
- Council Fife
- Parish Maritime - Fife
- Former Region Fife
- Former District Maritime
- Former County Not Applicable
NT18SW 80011262 8016
N56 .3917 W 3 24.0833
NLO: North Queensferry [name: NT 132 804].
Formerly entered as NT18SW 8112.
Horizontal Datum = OGB
Surveying Details
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24 February 1961. A boiler, 10 feet in diamater, is reported awash at position 56 00 23.5N, 003 24 05W by the Marine Superintendant of Grangemouth.
7 January 1969. The boiler is not visible at low water, however its presence has not been disproved.
Hydrographic Office 1995.
Possibly on map sheet and/or in quasi-administrative area Maritime - West Lothian or Maritime - Fife. Queensferry Narrows are not noted as such on the 1998 edition of the OS 1:50,000 map, but the name applies to the narrows between North and South Queensferry.
Information from RCAHMS (RJCM), 1 October 2003.
Reference (19 April 2012)
UKHO Identifier : 002796
Feature Class : Obstn
State : LIVE
Classification : Unclassified
Position (Lat/long) : 56.00645,-3.40278
Horizontal Datum : ETRS 1989
WGS84 Position (Lat/long) : 56.00645,-3.40278
WGS84 Origin : Block Shift
Previous Position : 56.00645,-3.40278
Position Quality : Precisely known
Depth Quality : Depth unknown
Water Depth : 2
Water Level Effect : Awash
Vertical Datum : Mean Low Water Springs
Name : TELESILLA (REMAINS OF) (PROBABLY)
Type : SS
Flag : BRITISH
Length : 70.1
Beam : 9.6
Draught : 5.2
Tonnage : 1203
Tonnage Type : Gross
Cargo : COAL
Date Sunk : 14/09/1896
Bottom Texture : Mud
Contact Description : Other
Original Sensor : Video Sensor
Original Detection Year : 1961
Original Source : Other
Circumstances of Loss : **BUILT 1877 BY E WITHY & CO, HARTLEPOOL, WITH 2 CYLINDER COMPOUND ENGINE OF OF 12OHP, 1 BOILER, SINGLE SHAFT. MACHINERY BY T RICHARDSON & SONS, HARTLEPOOL. OWNED AT TIME OF LOST BY E GORDON, NEWCASTLE. PASSAGE GRANGEMOUTH FOR HAMBURG. RAN ON TO BEAMER ROCK, THEN DRIFTED OFF AND SANK ADJACENT TO MACKINTOSH ROCK, ON WHICH THE N TOWER OF THE FORTH ROAD BRIDGE WAS BUILT. IN 1906 IT WAS REPORTED THAT DISPERSAL OPS WERE BEING CARRIED OUT ON A VESSEL BEACHED NEAR QUEENSFERRY PRESUMABLY THIS WRECK. (LLOYDS REPORT OF CASUALTY 14.9.1896, SIBI, SHIPWRECKS OF THE FORTH, & OFF SCOTLAND)
Surveying Details : **H1023/61 24.2.61 BOILER, [PROBABLY FROM TELESILLA, SEE 2865]. OBSTN (AWASH) IN 560023.5N, 032405W [OGB]. (MARINE SUPT GRANGEMOUTH HN). BR STD.
**H7915/68 7.1.69 NOT VISIBLE AT LW. NOT DISPROVED. (HMS VIDAL, R OF S DTD 17.8.68). NCA.
POSITIONS BELOW THIS POINT ARE IN DEGREES, MINUTES AND DECIMALS OF A MINUTE
**29.6.02 EUT POSN: 5600.387N, 0324.167W. NE 736.
General Comments : DIAMETER 10FT, PROBABLY FROM "TELESILLA" [SEE 2865]
Chart Symbol : OB Awash
Date Last Amended : 19/07/2010
Date Position Last Amended : 19/07/2010
