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Unknown: North Queensferry, Firth Of Forth

Boiler (19th Century), Craft (19th Century)(Possible), Obstruction, Steamship (19th Century)

Site Name Unknown: North Queensferry, Firth Of Forth

Classification Boiler (19th Century), Craft (19th Century)(Possible), Obstruction, Steamship (19th Century)

Alternative Name(s) Queensferry Narrows; Outer Forth Estuary; Telesilla (Remains Of) (Probably)

Canmore ID 96643

Site Number NT18SW 8001

NGR NT 12625 80167

Datum WGS84 - Lat/Long

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Administrative Areas

  • Council Fife
  • Parish Maritime - Fife
  • Former Region Fife
  • Former District Maritime
  • Former County Not Applicable

Archaeology Notes

NT18SW 80011262 8016

N56 .3917 W 3 24.0833

NLO: North Queensferry [name: NT 132 804].

Formerly entered as NT18SW 8112.

Horizontal Datum = OGB

Surveying Details

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24 February 1961. A boiler, 10 feet in diamater, is reported awash at position 56 00 23.5N, 003 24 05W by the Marine Superintendant of Grangemouth.

7 January 1969. The boiler is not visible at low water, however its presence has not been disproved.

Hydrographic Office 1995.

Possibly on map sheet and/or in quasi-administrative area Maritime - West Lothian or Maritime - Fife. Queensferry Narrows are not noted as such on the 1998 edition of the OS 1:50,000 map, but the name applies to the narrows between North and South Queensferry.

Information from RCAHMS (RJCM), 1 October 2003.

Activities

Reference (19 April 2012)

UKHO Identifier : 002796

Feature Class : Obstn

State : LIVE

Classification : Unclassified

Position (Lat/long) : 56.00645,-3.40278

Horizontal Datum : ETRS 1989

WGS84 Position (Lat/long) : 56.00645,-3.40278

WGS84 Origin : Block Shift

Previous Position : 56.00645,-3.40278

Position Quality : Precisely known

Depth Quality : Depth unknown

Water Depth : 2

Water Level Effect : Awash

Vertical Datum : Mean Low Water Springs

Name : TELESILLA (REMAINS OF) (PROBABLY)

Type : SS

Flag : BRITISH

Length : 70.1

Beam : 9.6

Draught : 5.2

Tonnage : 1203

Tonnage Type : Gross

Cargo : COAL

Date Sunk : 14/09/1896

Bottom Texture : Mud

Contact Description : Other

Original Sensor : Video Sensor

Original Detection Year : 1961

Original Source : Other

Circumstances of Loss : **BUILT 1877 BY E WITHY & CO, HARTLEPOOL, WITH 2 CYLINDER COMPOUND ENGINE OF OF 12OHP, 1 BOILER, SINGLE SHAFT. MACHINERY BY T RICHARDSON & SONS, HARTLEPOOL. OWNED AT TIME OF LOST BY E GORDON, NEWCASTLE. PASSAGE GRANGEMOUTH FOR HAMBURG. RAN ON TO BEAMER ROCK, THEN DRIFTED OFF AND SANK ADJACENT TO MACKINTOSH ROCK, ON WHICH THE N TOWER OF THE FORTH ROAD BRIDGE WAS BUILT. IN 1906 IT WAS REPORTED THAT DISPERSAL OPS WERE BEING CARRIED OUT ON A VESSEL BEACHED NEAR QUEENSFERRY PRESUMABLY THIS WRECK. (LLOYDS REPORT OF CASUALTY 14.9.1896, SIBI, SHIPWRECKS OF THE FORTH, & OFF SCOTLAND)

Surveying Details : **H1023/61 24.2.61 BOILER, [PROBABLY FROM TELESILLA, SEE 2865]. OBSTN (AWASH) IN 560023.5N, 032405W [OGB]. (MARINE SUPT GRANGEMOUTH HN). BR STD.

**H7915/68 7.1.69 NOT VISIBLE AT LW. NOT DISPROVED. (HMS VIDAL, R OF S DTD 17.8.68). NCA.

POSITIONS BELOW THIS POINT ARE IN DEGREES, MINUTES AND DECIMALS OF A MINUTE

**29.6.02 EUT POSN: 5600.387N, 0324.167W. NE 736.

General Comments : DIAMETER 10FT, PROBABLY FROM "TELESILLA" [SEE 2865]

Chart Symbol : OB Awash

Date Last Amended : 19/07/2010

Date Position Last Amended : 19/07/2010

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