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Hermann Helbmanns: Little Minch
Barque (19th Century)
Site Name Hermann Helbmanns: Little Minch
Classification Barque (19th Century)
Alternative Name(s) 'Off Dunvegan Head'; Duirinish; Skye; Loch Maddy; Lochmaddy; Hermann Helbmanns
Canmore ID 286547
Site Number NG16NW 8002
NGR NG 11 65
Datum WGS84 - Lat/Long
Permalink http://canmore.org.uk/site/286547
- Council Highland
- Parish Maritime - Highland
- Former Region Highland
- Former District Maritime
- Former County Not Applicable
NG16NW 8002 unlocated
NLO: Dunvegan Head [name: NG 176 568]
Loch nam Madadh (Lochmaddy) [name: NF 918 689]
Loch Maddy (Loch nam Madadh) [name centred NF 931 685]
Skye [name centred NG 45 35].
Formerly entered as NG15NE 8002 (unlocated).
The War. Captures. A report received this morning from Stornoway, states that the HERMANN HELBMANNS (?) (Pruss. barq.), which left Scapa, Orkney Islands, a few days previously was blown up off Dunvegan Head, the following morning, by a French man-of-war.
Source, LL, No. 17,656, London, Friday, November 18 1870.
NMRS, MS/829/72 (no. 11871).
Glasgow, 28th Nov. Last week some wreck, evidently from a vessel which had been blown to pieces, washed ashore at Loch Maddy [Lochmaddy].
Source, LL, No. 17,666, London, Wednesday, November 30 1870.
NMRS, MS/829/72 (no. 11880).
(No classification or cargo specified: date of loss cited as 17 November 1870). Hermann Helbmanns: unconfirmed report 'blown up by privateer' off Dunvegan. Loch Maddy [Lochmaddy] wreckage on 28th.
(Location of loss cited as N57 35.0 W6 50.0).
I G Whittaker 1998.
The map sheet assigned to this record is essentially arbitrary, being derived from the unverified location of loss that is cited by Whittaker.
The date cited may be anomalous.
The equation suggested by Whittaker with wreckage at Lochmaddy remains unverified, but is accepted.
Information from RCAHMS (RJCM), 20 February 2007.
Evidence Of Loss (17 November 1870)
The War. Captures. A report received this morning from Stornoway, states that the HERMANN HELBMANNS (?)(Pruss. barq.), which left Scapa, Orkney Islands, a few days previously was blown up off Dunvegan Head, the following morning, by a French man-of-war.
Source, LL, No. 17,656, London, Friday, November 18 1870.
NMRS, MS/829/72 (no. 11871).
Glasgow, 28th Nov. Last week some wreck, evidently from a vessel which had been blown to pieces, washed ashore at Loch Maddy [Lochmaddy].
Source, LL, No. 17,666, London, Wednesday, November 30 1870.
NMRS, MS/829/72 (no. 11880).
(No classification or cargo specified: date of loss cited as 17 November 1870). Hermann Helbmanns: unconfirmed report 'blown up by privateer' off Dunvegan. Loch Maddy [Lochmaddy] wreckage on 28th.
(Location of loss cited as N57 35.0 W6 50.0).
I G Whittaker 1998.
Note (20 February 2007)
The map sheet assigned to this record is essentially arbitrary, being derived from the unverified location of loss that is cited by Whittaker.
The date cited may be anomalous.
The equation suggested by Whittaker with wreckage at Lochmaddy remains unverified, but is accepted.
Information from RCAHMS (RJCM), 20 February 2007.
Reference (2011)
Whittaker ID : 12762
Name : HERMANN HELBMANNS
Latitude : 573500
Longitude : 65000
Loss Day : 17
Loss Month : 11
Loss Year : 1870
Comment : Unconfirmed report 'blown up by privateer' off Dunvegan. Loch Maddy wkge on 28th
