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William And Lydia: North Sea

Smack (19th Century)

Site Name William And Lydia: North Sea

Classification Smack (19th Century)

Alternative Name(s) William & Lydia; 'approximately 35 Miles South Of Noss Head'

Canmore ID 251702

Site Number NJ49SW 8001

NGR NJ 40 92

Datum WGS84 - Lat/Long

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Administrative Areas

  • Council Maritime
  • Parish Maritime - Offshore
  • Former Region Not Applicable
  • Former District Not Applicable
  • Former County Not Applicable

Archaeology Notes

NJ49SW 8001 unlocated

NLO: Noss Head [name: HU 554 398].

WILLIAM AND LYDIA, 8/287 of London, 48 ton, lost 12/9/1884. Smack. About 35 miles S. of Noss Head, Caithness. Struck a floating object.

Source: PP Report of joint committee of the Admiralty and the Board of Trade on floating derelicts. Appendix F. List of British vessels totally lost through striking floating or submerged wreckage during the ten years end 30 June 1893 (1894 LXXVI.97).

NMRS, MS/829/68 (no. 1252).

12th September 1884, WILLIAM AND LYDIA, 22 yrs old, registered London, wooden smack, 48 tons, 7 crew. Master A. Spindler, Owner R. Melhuish, New Clee, Lincolnshire. Departed Grimsby for Westra, Orkneys, carrying salted fish, struck floating wreck, wind S by E 3, about 35 miles S. of Noss Head, Caithness-shire.

Source: PP Abstracts of Shipping Casualties on Coasts, or in Rivers and [record received incomplete].

NMRS, MS/829/68 (no. 1989).

(Classified as wooden smack, with cargo of salted fish: date of loss cited as 12 September 1884). William & Lydia: this vessel struck floating wreckage approximately 35 miles S of Noss Head. (Elizabeth?)

Registration: London. Built 1842. 48 tons [unspecified].

(Location of loss cited as N57 55.00 3.00).

I G Whittaker 1998.

The map sheet and quasi-administrative area assigned to this record are arbitrary, being derived from the unverified location of loss that is cited by Whittaker. The loss of this vessel may alternatively have occurred within the areas that are designated Maritime - Moray or Maritime - Aberdeenshire.

This vessel presumably sank soon after striking the wreckage.

Information from RCAHMS (RJCM), 30 October 2003.

Activities

Evidence Of Loss (12 September 1884)

WILLIAM AND LYDIA, 8/287 of London, 48 ton, lost 12/9/1884. Smack. About 35 miles S. of Noss Head, Caithness. Struck a floating object.

Source: PP Report of joint committee of the Admiralty and the Board of Trade on floating derelicts. Appendix F. List of British vessels totally lost through striking floating or submerged wreckage during the ten years end 30 June 1893 (1894 LXXVI.97).

NMRS, MS/829/68 (no. 1252).

12th September 1884, WILLIAM AND LYDIA, 22 yrs old, registered London, wooden smack, 48 tons, 7 crew. Master A. Spindler, Owner R. Melhuish, New Clee, Lincolnshire. Departed Grimsby for Westra, Orkneys, carrying salted fish, struck floating wreck, wind S by E 3, about 35 miles S. of Noss Head, Caithness-shire.

Source: PP Abstracts of Shipping Casualties on Coasts, or in Rivers and [record received incomplete].

NMRS, MS/829/68 (no. 1989).

(Classified as wooden smack, with cargo of salted fish: date of loss cited as 12 September 1884). William & Lydia: this vessel struck floating wreckage approximately 35 miles S of Noss Head. (Elizabeth?)

Registration: London. Built 1842. 48 tons [unspecified].

(Location of loss cited as N57 55.00 3.00).

I G Whittaker 1998.

Note (30 October 2003)

The map sheet and quasi-administrative area assigned to this record are arbitrary, being derived from the unverified location of loss that is cited by Whittaker. The loss of this vessel may alternatively have occurred within the areas that are designated Maritime - Moray or Maritime - Aberdeenshire.

This vessel presumably sank soon after striking the wreckage.

Information from RCAHMS (RJCM), 30 October 2003.

Reference (2011)

Whittaker ID : 3175

Name : WILLIAM & LYDIA

Latitude : 575500

Longitude : 30000

Date Built : 1842

Registration : LONDON

Type : SMACK (WOOD)

Tonnage : 48

Loss Day : 12

Loss Month : 9

Loss Year : 1884

Comment : Struck floating wreckage approx 35 miles S of Noss Hd. ('ELIZABETH' ?)

Cargo : SALTED FISH

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