John And Jessie: Montrose Harbour Approach, Montrose, North Sea
Lugger (19th Century)
Site Name John And Jessie: Montrose Harbour Approach, Montrose, North Sea
Classification Lugger (19th Century)
Alternative Name(s) John & Jessie Montrose; John & Jessie; 'half Mile S. Of The Rocks Off Montrose Harbour'; '0.5 Mile South Of Montrose Harbour'; Harbour Rocks
Canmore ID 198242
Site Number NO75NW 8042
NGR NO 725 568
NGR Description NO c. 725 568
Datum Datum not recorded
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- Council Angus
- Parish Maritime - Angus
- Former Region Tayside
- Former District Maritime
- Former County Not Applicable
NO75NW 8042 c. 725 568
N56 42.1 W2 27.0
NLO: Montrose [name: NO 720 572]
Scurdie Ness [name: NO 735 567].
Location formerly entered as NO c. 73 56 [N56 42 W2 26].
19 October 1872, JOHN AND JESSIE, of Montrose, 6 yrs old, lugger, 7 tons, 6 crew, Master and Owner J. Findlay, departed Montrose for fishing, in ballast, foundered, total loss, 5 lives lost, wind S6, half mile S. of the rocks off Montrose Harbour.
Source: PP Abstracts Returns of Wrecks and Casualties on Coasts of the UK [Record received incomplete].
NMRS, MS/829/68 (no. 2431).
(Name cited as John & Jessie: classified as lugger, in ballast, and date of loss cited as 19 October 1872). John & Jessie: [this vessel] foundered 0.5 miles S of Montrose harbour. Capt. Findlay.
Registration: Montrose. Built 1866. 7nrt.
(Location of loss cited as N56 41.50 W2 25.00).
I G Whittaker 1998.
(Location re-entered as NO c. 725 568 [N56 42.1 W2 27.0]). The location assigned to this record is tentative, assuming that the loss of the vessel occurred E (rather than S) of Montrose Harbour.
Montrose Harbour or the Port of Montrose (NO75NW 44.00) occupies an ill-defined area around NO 7123 5121. It does not have a clearly-defined entrance, but is approached (from the E) between the extensive estuarine sandbanks of the River South Esk, which extend as far E as Scurdie Ness [name: NO 735 567]. The vessel apparently stranded within the rocky area opposite (to the S of) these sandbanks, where the 1999 edition of the OS 1:50,000 map indicates a continuous rocky shore along the S side of the Esk between Ferryden [name: NO 718 568] and Scurdie Ness.
An alternative location of loss may be suggested at NO c. 731 560, this being 0.5 mile SSW of Scurdie Ness, which rocky promontory defines the S side of the entrance into Montrose Harbour approach.
Information from RCAHMS (RJCM), 18 November 2011.
Loss (19 October 1872)
19 October 1872, JOHN AND JESSIE, of Montrose, 6 yrs old, lugger, 7 tons, 6 crew, Master and Owner J. Findlay, departed Montrose for fishing, in ballast, foundered, total loss, 5 lives lost, wind S6, half mile S. of the rocks off Montrose Harbour.
Source: PP Abstracts Returns of Wrecks and Casualties on Coasts of the UK [Record received incomplete].
NMRS, MS/829/68 (no. 2431).
(Name cited as John & Jessie: classified as lugger, in ballast, and date of loss cited as 19 October 1872). John & Jessie: [this vessel] foundered 0.5 miles S of Montrose harbour. Capt. Findlay.
Registration: Montrose. Built 1866. 7nrt.
(Location of loss cited as N56 41.50 W2 25.00).
I G Whittaker 1998.
Named Location (Nlo) (5 October 2001)
NLO: Montrose [name: NO 720 572]
Scurdie Ness [name: NO 735 567].
Location formerly entered as NO c. 73 56 [N56 42 W2 26].
Note (18 November 2011)
(Location re-entered as NO c. 725 568 [N56 42.1 W2 27.0]). The location assigned to this record is tentative, assuming that the loss of the vessel occurred E (rather than S) of Montrose Harbour.
Montrose Harbour or the Port of Montrose (NO75NW 44.00) occupies an ill-defined area around NO 7123 5121. It does not have a clearly-defined entrance, but is approached (from the E) between the extensive estuarine sandbanks of the River South Esk, which extend as far E as Scurdie Ness [name: NO 735 567]. The vessel apparently stranded within the rocky area opposite (to the S of) these sandbanks, where the 1999 edition of the OS 1:50,000 map indicates a continuous rocky shore along the S side of the Esk between Ferryden [name: NO 718 568] and Scurdie Ness.
An alternative location of loss may be suggested at NO c. 731 560, this being 0.5 mile SSW of Scurdie Ness, which rocky promontory defines the S side of the entrance into Montrose Harbour approach.
Information from RCAHMS (RJCM), 18 November 2011.
Reference (2011)
Whittaker ID : 5387
Name : JOHN & JESSIE
Latitude : 564130
Longitude : 22500
Date Built : 1866
Registration : MONTROSE
Type : LUGGER
Tonnage : 7
Tonnage Code : N
Loss Day : 19
Loss Month : 10
Loss Year : 1872
Comment : Foundered 0.5 mile S of Montrose Hbr. Capt. Findlay
Cargo : BALLAST
