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Carmania Ii: Kirk Rocks, Hoy Sound, Orkney

Steam Trawler (20th Century)

Site Name Carmania Ii: Kirk Rocks, Hoy Sound, Orkney

Classification Steam Trawler (20th Century)

Alternative Name(s) Gy 268; Carmania; Stromness; Scapa Flow; Atlantic; Carmania Ii (Gy 268) (Ex. Carmania)

Canmore ID 115960

Site Number HY20NW 8007

NGR HY 233 080

NGR Description HY c. 233 080

Datum Datum not recorded

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Administrative Areas

  • Council Orkney Islands
  • Parish Maritime - Orkney
  • Former Region Orkney Islands Area
  • Former District Maritime
  • Former County Not Applicable

Archaeology Notes

HY20NW 8007 c. 233 080

N58 57.2 W3 20

NLO: Kirk Rocks [name: HY 233 080]

Hoy Sound [name centred HY 236 072]

Stromness [name: HY 253 090]

Scapa Flow [name centred HY 36 00].

Location formerly entered as HY 2320 0800 [N58 57.1626 W3 20.1072].

Steam Trawler CARMANIA II, 107 ton, of Grimsby, master Loftis. Bound from Iceland to Grimsby. Lost 14 Feb 1929, 3.30am. Kirk Rocks, Hoy Sound. Snow showers. Cause of wreck not known. Crew 12, all saved. Cargo fish.

[Contemporary] source: Sule Skerry Lighthouse Shore Station, Stromness, Orkney.

(Classified as steel, steam trawler: no cargo specified, but former name cited as Carmania, registration as GY 268, and date of loss as 14 February 1929). Carmania II: this vessel stranded on Kirk Rocks. Capt. Loftus.

Registration: Grimsby. Built 1907. 250grt. Length: 40m. Beam: 7m.

(Location of loss cited as N58 57.0 W3 20.0).

I G Whittaker 1998.

The location assigned to this record is essentially tentative.

Information from RCAHMS (RJCM), 23 May 2011.

Activities

Loss (14 February 1929)

Steam Trawler CARMANIA II, 107 ton, of Grimsby, master Loftis. Bound from Iceland to Grimsby. Lost 14 Feb 1929, 3.30am. Kirk Rocks, Hoy Sound. Snow showers. Cause of wreck not known. Crew 12, all saved. Cargo fish.

[Contemporary] source: Sule Skerry Lighthouse Shore Station, Stromness, Orkney.

(Classified as steel, steam trawler: no cargo specified, but former name cited as Carmania, registration as GY 268, and date of loss as 14 February 1929). Carmania II: this vessel stranded on Kirk Rocks. Capt. Loftus.

Registration: Grimsby. Built 1907. 250grt. Length: 40m. Beam: 7m.

(Location of loss cited as N58 57.0 W3 20.0).

I G Whittaker 1998.

Named Location (Nlo) (27 March 1997)

NLO: Kirk Rocks [name: HY 233 080]

Hoy Sound [name centred HY 236 072]

Stromness [name: HY 253 090]

Scapa Flow [name centred HY 36 00].

Location formerly entered as HY 2320 0800 [N58 57.1626 W3 20.1072].

Note (23 May 2011)

The location assigned to this record is essentially tentative.

Information from RCAHMS (RJCM), 23 May 2011.

Reference (2011)

Whittaker ID : 7282

Name : CARMANIA II (GY 268) (EX. CARMANIA)

Latitude : 585700

Longitude : 32000

Date Built : 1907

Registration : GRIMSBY

Type : STEAM TRAWLER(STEEL)

Tonnage : 250

Tonnage Code : G

Length : 40

Beam : 7

Draught : 3m

Loss Day : 14

Loss Month : 2

Loss Year : 1929

Comment : Stranded on Kirk Rocks. Capt. Loftus

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