Edenmore: The Roan, Papa Stronsay, Orkney, North Sea
Schooner (20th Century), Ship (20th Century)
Site Name Edenmore: The Roan, Papa Stronsay, Orkney, North Sea
Classification Schooner (20th Century), Ship (20th Century)
Alternative Name(s) Edenballymore; 'at The Se Corner Of Papa Stronsay'; Rowan; The Rhone; Sanday Sound; Edenmore; Edenmore (Ex. Edenballymore)
Canmore ID 102161
Site Number HY62NE 8001
NGR HY 67209 29388
Datum WGS84 - Lat/Long
Permalink http://canmore.org.uk/site/102161
- Council Orkney Islands
- Parish Maritime - Orkney
- Former Region Orkney Islands Area
- Former District Maritime
- Former County Not Applicable
HY62NE 8001 c. 672 293
N59 9 W2 34.4
NLO: The Roan [name: HY 672 293]
Sanday Sound [name centred HY 67 34]
Papa Stronsay [name centred HY 665 295].
Location formerly cited as HY 6758 2868 [N59 8.4 W2 34].
Well looted by the islanders; odds and ends such as deck planking and china still come ashore.
G Ridley 1992.
Quality of fix = PA
Horizontal Datum = OGB
Circumstances of Loss Details
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The 3 masted schooner, EDENMORE, struck rocks to the E of Papa Stronsay and sank.
Surveying Details
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7 August 1986. Nothing was found during a general search of the area.
Report by B Winfield, 26 July 1986.
Hydrographic Office, 1995.
(Classified as steel [full-rigged] ship, with general cargo: former name cited as Edenballymore, and date of loss as 7 October 1909). Edenmore: this vessel stranded at the SE corner of Papa Stronsay, at the Rhone [The Roan].
Registration: Greenock. Built 1890. 1726grt. Length: 79m. Beam: 12m.
(Location of loss cited as N59 4.5 W2 32.0).
I G Whittaker 1998.
Reference (2011)
Whittaker ID : 2718
Name : EDENMORE (EX. EDENBALLYMORE)
Latitude : 590430
Longitude : 23200
Date Built : 1890
Registration : GREENOCK
Type : SHIP (STEEL)
Tonnage : 1726
Tonnage Code : G
Length : 79
Beam : 12
Draught : 7m
Loss Day : 7
Loss Month : 10
Loss Year : 1909
Comment : Stranded at SE corner of Papa Stronsay at the Rhone
Cargo : GENERAL
Reference (19 April 2012)
UKHO Identifier : 000514
Feature Class : Wreck
State : DEAD
Classification : Unclassified
Position (Lat/long) : 59.15000,-2.57500
Horizontal Datum : ETRS 1989
WGS84 Position (Lat/long) : 59.15000,-2.57500
WGS84 Origin : Block Shift
Previous Position : 59.15000,-2.57500
Position Quality : Unreliable
Depth Quality : Depth unknown
Water Depth : 2
Vertical Datum : Lowest Astronomical Tide
Name : EDENMORE
Type : 3 MASTED SCHOONER
Flag : BRITISH
Length : 79.4
Beam : 11.6
Draught : 7.0
Tonnage : 1642
Tonnage Type : Gross
Cargo : GENERAL (UNSPECIFIED)
Date Sunk : 07/10/1909
Bottom Texture : Rock
Contact Description : Entire wreck
Original Sensor : Reported Sinking
Original Detection Year : 1909
Original Source : Other
Circumstances of Loss : **EX-EDENBALLYMORE. BUILT IN 1890 BY RUSSELL & CO., PORT GLASGOW. OWNED AT TIME OF LOSS BY S.EDENMORE, CO. LTD. AFTER LOADING A GENERAL CARGO, WHICH INCLUDED MACHINERY, FURNITURE, CHEMICALS AND PIANOS, LEFT HAMBURG PASSAGE FOR SYDNEY, NSW, ON 3.10.09. STRUCK ROCKS TO THE E OF PAPA STRONSAY, ORKNEY ISLANDS AND SANK. CREW OF 25 RESCUED. (SIBI).
**PHOTO OF STRANDED VESSEL. (OFF SCOTLAND).
**RAN AGROUND ON THE ROAN, SE POINT OF PAPA STRONSAY. IN 3 WEEKS FOLLOWING STRANDING 23 PIANOS, 23,000 SLATES AND CHINAWARE WERE RECOVERED. THE EDENMORE WAS COMPLETELY BROKEN UP IN A GALE ON 5.12.1909. PHOTO OF STRANDED VESSEL. (SHIPWRECKS OF ORKNEY, SHETLAND & PENTLAND FIRTH, D.M. FERGUSON)
Surveying Details : **H1310/86/20 7.8.86 NOTHING FOUND DURING GENERAL SEARCH OF THE AREA. (B WINFIELD 26.7.86).
**26.3.98 AMENDED TO DEAD. NE 2622.
POSITIONS BELOW THIS POINT ARE IN DEGREES, MINUTES AND DECIMALS OF A MINUTE
**2.4.05 STATED TO HAVE BEEN WRECKED ON THE ROAN, SE POINT OF PAPA STRONSAY. (SHIPWRECKS OF ORKNEY, SHETLAND & PENTLAND FIRTH, D.M. FERGUSON, 1988) WELL LOOTED BY ISLANDERS, PROBABLY ONLY KEEL & BOTTOM REMAIN. WRECKAGE SUCH AS DECK PLANKING & CHINA STILL COME ASHORE. (DIVE SCOTLAND VOL.III, G RIDLEY, 1992) AMENDED BACK TO LIVE, POSN FOR FILING ONLY AMENDED TO 5909.00N, 0234.50W [EUT].
**SEP 2006/369679 5.9.05 NOT LOCATED. (MMT SURVEY VESSEL PING, HI 1122). AMENDED TO DEAD. NCA.
General Comments : STEEL CONSTRUCTION, FULL-RIGGED SHIP
Charting Comments : POSN FOR FILING ONLY
Date Last Amended : 05/09/2006
Date Position Last Amended : 02/04/2005
Reference (March 2012)
Sitename : Edenmore
Altname : Edenballymore; 'At The Se Corner Of Papa Stronsay'; Rowan; The Rhone; Sanday Sound
Note : Centre point of 1 kilometre buffer at NGR 367209E 1029388N.
As Canmore.
Circumstances of Loss
**EX-EDENBALLYMORE. BUILT IN 1890 BY RUSSELL & CO., PORT GLASGOW. OWNED AT TIME OF LOSS BY S.EDENMORE, CO. LTD. AFTER LOADING A GENERAL CARGO, WHICH INCLUDED MACHINERY, FURNITURE, CHEMICALS AND PIANOS, LEFT HAMBURG PASSAGE FOR SYDNEY, NSW, ON 3.10.09. STRUCK ROCKS TO THE E OF PAPA STRONSAY, ORKNEY ISLANDS AND SANK. CREW OF 25 RESCUED. (SIBI).
**PHOTO OF STRANDED VESSEL. (OFF SCOTLAND).
**RAN AGROUND ON THE ROAN, SE POINT OF PAPA STRONSAY. IN 3 WEEKS FOLLOWING STRANDING 23 PIANOS, 23,000 SLATES AND CHINAWARE WERE RECOVERED. THE EDENMORE WAS COMPLETELY BROKEN UP IN A GALE ON 5.12.1909. PHOTO OF STRANDED VESSEL. (SHIPWRECKS OF ORKNEY, SHETLAND & PENTLAND FIRTH, D.M. FERGUSON)
Surveying Details
**H1310/86/20 7.8.86 NOTHING FOUND DURING GENERAL SEARCH OF THE AREA. (B WINFIELD 26.7.86).
**26.3.98 AMENDED TO DEAD. NE 2622. POSITIONS BELOW THIS POINT ARE IN DEGREES, MINUTES AND DECIMALS OF A MINUTE
**2.4.05 STATED TO HAVE BEEN WRECKED ON THE ROAN, SE POINT OF PAPA STRONSAY. (SHIPWRECKS OF ORKNEY, SHETLAND & PENTLAND FIRTH, D.M. FERGUSON, 1988) WELL LOOTED BY ISLANDERS, PROBABLY ONLY KEEL & BOTTOM REMAIN. WRECKAGE SUCH AS DECK PLANKING & CHINA STILL COME ASHORE. (DIVE SCOTLAND VOL.III, G RIDLEY, 1992) AMENDED BACK TO LIVE, POSN FOR FILING ONLY AMENDED TO 5909.00N, 0234.50W [EUT].
**SEP 2006/369679 5.9.05 NOT LOCATED. (MMT SURVEY VESSEL PING, HI 1122). AMENDED TO DEAD. NCA. (UKHO)
Some wreckage and finds would appear to remain in the waters off Stronsay although the preceise location(s) of these items is unknown (MKS).
Source :
UKHO Wreck report,514