Young Fox [possibly]: Moray Firth
Auxiliary Ketch (20th Century), Sailing Vessel (By Form/type) (20th Century)
Site Name Young Fox [possibly]: Moray Firth
Classification Auxiliary Ketch (20th Century), Sailing Vessel (By Form/type) (20th Century)
Alternative Name(s) Tarbat Ness; Tarbetness; North Sea; Young Fox (Possibly)
Canmore ID 102060
Site Number NJ08NW 8001
NGR NJ 03868 88123
Datum WGS84 - Lat/Long
Permalink http://canmore.org.uk/site/102060
- Council Highland
- Parish Maritime - Highland
- Former Region Highland
- Former District Maritime
- Former County Not Applicable
NJ08NW 8001 0258 8691
N57 51.6833 W3 38.5167
NLO: Tarbat Ness [name: NH 949 878].
Formerly entered as Site no. 8572.
See also NJ08NW 8002.
Quality of fix = HF
Evidence = Echo sounder
Horizontal Datum = OGB
General water depth = 38
Orientation of keel/wreck = 045/225
Circumstances of Loss Details
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The auxilliary sailing vessel YOUNG FOX was reported missing on 6 December 1928. She was believed to have sunk in heavy weather whilst on passage from Sunderland to Portmahomack.
Surveying Details
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The vessel sank at 57 52 00N, 003 41 00W or about 3 miles east of Tarbat Ness.
13 August 1976. The wreck was examined on 30 July 1975 at 57 51 41N, 003 38 31W, or Moray Firth hf - patt 1 359.22, pat 2 311.42 or decca [n scot] red h 3.95, green c 40.52, purple a 53.23. The least echosounder depth [obtained by 18 foot submersible] was 31.6 in general depth of 38 metres. No scouring was observed. The length indicated by sonar was 30 metres. It lies with its keel roughly on an orientation of 045/225 degrees.
Report by HMS ECHO.
10 June 1993. The site was dived upon at 57 41 38.5N, 003 38 35W using GPS to fix the position. The vessel is fairly well broken up but is contained in one general area. It stands about 6 metres clear of a firm seabed. Much coal lies around the wreckage.
Report by J Leigh, 27 April 1993.
Hydrographic Office, 1995.
Material reported under RoW amnesty (2001):
A1203 fairlead, 1-gallon stone container: from seabed.
(Cited as from unknown vessel 3 miles E of Tarbat Ness).
NMRS, MS/829/35.
This wreck is probably to be equated with the documented loss of the Young Fox (NJ08NW 8002).
Information from RCAHMS (RJCM), 3 February 2011.
Evidence Of Loss (1995)
Quality of fix = HF
Evidence = Echo sounder
Horizontal Datum = OGB
General water depth = 38
Orientation of keel/wreck = 045/225
Circumstances of Loss Details
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The auxilliary sailing vessel YOUNG FOX was reported missing on 6 December 1928. She was believed to have sunk in heavy weather whilst on passage from Sunderland to Portmahomack.
Surveying Details
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The vessel sank at 57 52 00N, 003 41 00W or about 3 miles east of Tarbat Ness.
13 August 1976. The wreck was examined on 30 July 1975 at 57 51 41N, 003 38 31W, or Moray Firth hf - patt 1 359.22, pat 2 311.42 or decca [n scot] red h 3.95, green c 40.52, purple a 53.23. The least echosounder depth [obtained by 18 foot submersible] was 31.6 in general depth of 38 metres. No scouring was observed. The length indicated by sonar was 30 metres. It lies with its keel roughly on an orientation of 045/225 degrees.
Report by HMS ECHO.
10 June 1993. The site was dived upon at 57 41 38.5N, 003 38 35W using GPS to fix the position. The vessel is fairly well broken up but is contained in one general area. It stands about 6 metres clear of a firm seabed. Much coal lies around the wreckage.
Report by J Leigh, 27 April 1993.
Hydrographic Office, 1995.
Evidence Of Loss (2001)
Material reported under RoW amnesty (2001):
A1203 fairlead, 1-gallon stone container: from seabed.
(Cited as from unknown vessel 3 miles E of Tarbat Ness).
NMRS, MS/829/35.
Note (3 February 2011)
This wreck is probably to be equated with the documented loss of the Young Fox (NJ08NW 8002).
Information from RCAHMS (RJCM), 3 February 2011.
Reference (2011)
Whittaker ID : 16
Name : YOUNG FOX
Latitude : 575141
Longitude : 33831
Registration : AVOCH
Type : AUX. KETCH
Tonnage : 98
Tonnage Code : G
Length : 24
Beam : 6
Draught : 2m
Position : Exact Position
Loss Day : 6
Loss Month : 12
Loss Year : 1928
Comment : Foundered in storm 3 miles E of Tarbetness. Capt. McIntosh
Cargo : COAL
Reference (19 April 2012)
UKHO Identifier : 002109
Feature Class : Wreck
Wreck Category : Non-dangerous wreck
State : DEAD
Classification : Unclassified
Position (Lat/long) : 57.87250,-3.62083
Horizontal Datum : ORDNANCE SURVEY OF GREAT BRITAIN (1936)
WGS84 Position (Lat/long) : 57.87219,-3.62229
WGS84 Origin : 3-D Cartesian Shift (BW)
Position Method : DECCA navigator
Position Quality : Precisely known
Depth Quality : Depth unknown
Water Depth : 43
Vertical Datum : Lowest Astronomical Tide
Name : YOUNG FOX (POSSIBLY)
Type : AUXILLARY SV
Flag : BRITISH
Tonnage : 98
Tonnage Type : Gross
Cargo : COAL
Date Sunk : 06/12/1928
Contact Description : Notable debris
Original Sensor : Reported Sinking
Last Sensor : None reported
Original Detection Year : 1928
Last Detection Year : 1984
Original Source : Other
Last Source : Other
Circumstances of Loss : **REPORTED MISSING. BELIEVED SUNK IN HEAVY WEATHER 3 MILES E OF TARBAT NESS. PASSAGE SUNDERLAND FOR PORTHAHOMAK. (OFF SCOTLAND).
Surveying Details : **6.12.28 SINKING POSN REPD AS 575200, 034100W. (OFF SCOTLAND).
**H1310/84/40 & H1270/81 15.11.84 WK LOCATED IN 575221N, 033715W [OGB] USING DECCA. (B GREIG). INS AS NDW. BR STD.
POSITIONS BELOW THIS POINT ARE IN DEGREES, MINUTES AND DECIMALS OF A MINUTE
**SEP 2008/000007851 & HH091/150/01 23.1.08 NOT LOCATED BY M/B, DISPROVED. (GARDLINE, HI 1150). AMENDED TO DEAD. DELETE. BR STD.
Chart Symbol : NDW
Date Last Amended : 23/01/2008
