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Unknown: North Minch
Liner (Period Unassigned), Steamship (Period Unassigned)
Site Name Unknown: North Minch
Classification Liner (Period Unassigned), Steamship (Period Unassigned)
Alternative Name(s) Tiumpan Head; Point Of Stoer; Cape Wrath; Hms Caribbean (Probably); Unknown
Canmore ID 101944
Site Number NB72NW 8003
NGR NB 73761 26267
Datum WGS84 - Lat/Long
Permalink http://canmore.org.uk/site/101944
- Council Western Isles
- Parish Maritime - Western Isles
- Former Region Western Isles Islands Area
- Former District Maritime
- Former County Not Applicable
N58 12.8667 W5 43.8833
NLO: Tiumpan Head (Rubha an t-Siumpain) [name: NB 573 377]
Point of Stoer [name: NC 022 356]
Cape Wrath [name: NC 256 750].
Formerly entered as Site no. 8453, and also as NB83SW 8005 at cited location NB 806 310 [N58 12.83 W5 44.05].
Quality of fix = EDM
Evidence = Echo sounder
Horizontal Datum = OGB
General water depth = 103
Orientation of keel/wreck = NW/SE
Surveying Details
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12 January 1970. The wreck was found while sonar sweeping the area and was fixed by using decca (scottish chain 6c/mp). The least depth by echosounder was 93 metres in 102 metres.
Report by HMS FOX, 7 November 1969.
7 December 1976. A 2 funnel passenger ship was located, with a height of 15.8 metres above the seabed, at decca posn (d6) red e 20.45 green a 32.70 purple f 70.83. This converts to 58 12 50.0N, 005 43 50.0W.
Report by Risdon Beazley, 27 October 1976. The site was surveyed in 1956-57.
8 August 1984. The site was examined on 4 October 1983 at 58 12 52N, 005 43 53W using trisponder to fix the position, side scan sonar & echosounder. The least echsounder depth was 88 metres in a general depth of 103 metres. A scour 0.5 metres deep was observed. The side scan sonar indicated a height of 14 metres and length of 118 metres (387 feet). The wreck is lying with its keel orientated 145/315 degrees.
Report by Land and Marine.
Hydrographic Office, 1995.
(Classified as Passenger Vessel: no date of loss specified. Unknown: has two funnels. Length: 119m.
(Location of loss cited as N58 12.83 W5 44.05).
I G Whittaker 1998.
The location cited falls about 21km WSW of Point of Stoer.
Information from RCAHMS (RJCM), 5 September 2008.
Reference (2011)
Whittaker ID : 1191
Name : UNKNOWN
Latitude : 581250
Longitude : 54403
Type : PASSENGER VESSEL
Length : 119
Position : Exact Position
Comment : Has two funnels
Reference (19 April 2012)
UKHO Identifier : 000792
Feature Class : Wreck
Wreck Category : Non-dangerous wreck
State : LIVE
Classification : Unclassified
Position (Lat/long) : 58.21444,-5.73139
Horizontal Datum : ORDNANCE SURVEY OF GREAT BRITAIN (1936)
WGS84 Position (Lat/long) : 58.21406,-5.73258
WGS84 Origin : 3-D Cartesian Shift (BW)
Previous Position : 58.21388,-5.73417
Position Method : Electronic Distance Measuring System
Position Quality : Surveyed
Position Accuracy : 13.0
Depth : 88.0
Depth Method : Found by echo-sounder
Depth Quality : Least depth known
Water Depth : 103
Water Level Effect : Always under water/submerged
Vertical Datum : Lowest Astronomical Tide
Name : HMS CARIBBEAN (PROBABLY)
Type : S PASSENGER LINER
Flag : BRITISH
Length : 128.0
Beam : 15.2
Draught : 7.6
Sonar Length : 118.0
Shadow Height : 14.0
Orientation : 135.0
Tonnage : 5820
Tonnage Type : Gross
Date Sunk : 27/09/1915
Scour Depth : 0.5
Contact Description : Entire wreck
Original Sensor : Acoustic Sensor
Last Sensor : Acoustic Sensor
Original Detection Year : 1970
Last Detection Year : 1984
Reference (19 April 2012)
UKHO Identifier : 000863
Feature Class : Wreck
Wreck Category : Non-dangerous wreck
State : LIVE
Classification : Unclassified
Position (Lat/long) : 58.16750,-5.84708
Horizontal Datum : ORDNANCE SURVEY OF GREAT BRITAIN (1936)
WGS84 Position (Lat/long) : 58.16712,-5.84826
WGS84 Origin : 3-D Cartesian Shift (BW)
Position Quality : Unreliable
Depth Quality : Depth unknown
Water Depth : 58
Vertical Datum : Lowest Astronomical Tide
Name : UNKNOWN
Contact Description : None reported
Original Sensor : Acoustic Sensor
Original Detection Year : 1997
Original Source : Other
Surveying Details : **HH272/770/04 13.3.97 WK LOCATED BY HULL MOUNTED SONAR IN 581003N, 055050W [?OGB]. (CTF 605, SIGNAL DTD 3.3.97). PLOTS IN FULLY SURVEYED AREA. POSN FOR FILING ONLY.
Charting Comments : POSN FOR FILING ONLY
Date Last Amended : 16/08/2004
Evidence Of Loss
(Classified as Passenger Vessel: no date of loss specified. Unknown: has two funnels. Length: 119m.
(Location of loss cited as N58 12.83 W5 44.05).
I G Whittaker 1998.
