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Premier: North Sea

Dandy (19th Century)

Site Name Premier: North Sea

Classification Dandy (19th Century)

Alternative Name(s) Buchan Ness; 'approximately 15 Miles Sxw Of Buchanness'; Premier

Canmore ID 101825

Site Number NK01SE 8001

NGR NK 08638 13977

Datum WGS84 - Lat/Long

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Administrative Areas

  • Council Aberdeenshire
  • Parish Maritime - Aberdeenshire
  • Former Region Grampian
  • Former District Maritime
  • Former County Not Applicable

Archaeology Notes

NK01SE 8001 unlocated

NLO: Buchan Ness [name: NK 137 422].

Formerly entered as NK01SE 8331 at cited location NK 0863 1397 (N57 13 W1 51.4167): location also formerly cited as NK c. 08 13 [N57 12 W1 52]. Classification formerly entered as ketch.

26 October 1898, PREMIER, 16 years, of Grimsby, wood dandy. 86 ton. 13 men. Master J. Loch. Owner Mrs E.J. Loch, Grimsby. Grimsby to fishing, ballast, wind SW4. About 15 miles S by W of Buchan Ness. Casualties involving total loss of vessel during year end 30 June 1899.

Source: PP Abstracts of Shipping Casualties on Coasts, or in Rivers and Harbours, of UK July 1898-99 (1900 [Cd. 318] LXXVII.531).

NMRS, MS/829/67 (no. 673).

Quality of fix = PA

Horizontal Datum = OGB

Circumstances of Loss Details

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The PREMIER (Dandy type fishing vessel) foundered about 15 miles S by W of Buchanness Lighthouse, Aberdeenshire. Source: Grimsby Loss List.

Surveying Details

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The wreck's position is approximately 57 13 00N, 001 51 25W.

Hydrographic Office 1995.

(Classified as wooden dandy, in ballast: date of loss cited as 26 October 1898). Premier: this vessel foundered about 15 miles SxW from Buchanness [Buchan Ness]. Capt. Loch.

Registration: Grimsby. Built 1882. 86 tons register.

(Location of loss cited as N57 13.0 W1 51.0).

I G Whittaker 1998.

The map sheet assigned to this record is essentially tentative, being derived from the locations cited by Whittaker and UKHO. The cited location falls about 13km NE of Aberdeen, and the loss may have occurred within the quasi-administrative area designated as Maritime - City of Aberdeen.

Information from RCAHMS (RJCM), 19 February 2008.

Activities

Reference (2011)

Whittaker ID : 2265

Name : PREMIER

Latitude : 571300

Longitude : 15100

Date Built : 1882

Registration : GRIMSBY

Type : DANDY (WOOD)

Tonnage : 86

Position : Position Approximate

Loss Day : 26

Loss Month : 10

Loss Year : 1898

Comment : Foundered approx 15 miles SxW of Buchanness. Capt. Loch

Cargo : BALLAST

Reference (19 April 2012)

UKHO Identifier : 002238

Feature Class : Wreck

State : DEAD

Classification : Unclassified

Position (Lat/long) : 57.21667,-1.85694

Horizontal Datum : ORDNANCE SURVEY OF GREAT BRITAIN (1936)

WGS84 Position (Lat/long) : 57.21647,-1.85862

WGS84 Origin : 3-D Cartesian Shift (BW)

Position Quality : Unreliable

Depth Quality : Depth unknown

Water Depth : 57

Vertical Datum : Lowest Astronomical Tide

Name : PREMIER

Type : DANDY

Tonnage : 86

Tonnage Type : Gross

Date Sunk : 26/10/1898

Contact Description : Entire wreck

Original Sensor : Reported Sinking

Original Detection Year : 1898

Original Source : Other

Circumstances of Loss : **FOUNDERED. (GRIMSBY LOSS LIST).

Surveying Details : **4.8.72 FOUNDERED ABOUT 15MILES S BY W OF BUCHANNESS LT HOUSE, ABERDEENSHIRE. (GRIMSBY LOSS LIST). POSN 571300N, 015125W FOR FILING ONLY.

POSITIONS BELOW THIS POINT ARE IN DEGREES, MINUTES AND DECIMALS OF A MINUTE

**HH091/155/01 2.3.10 NOT LOCATED BY M/B. (GARDLINE HYDRO, HI 1155). AMEND DEAD. NCA.

Charting Comments : POSN FOR FILING ONLY

Date Last Amended : 02/03/2010

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