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Premier: North Sea
Dandy (19th Century)
Site Name Premier: North Sea
Classification Dandy (19th Century)
Alternative Name(s) Buchan Ness; 'approximately 15 Miles Sxw Of Buchanness'; Premier
Canmore ID 101825
Site Number NK01SE 8001
NGR NK 08638 13977
Datum WGS84 - Lat/Long
Permalink http://canmore.org.uk/site/101825
- Council Aberdeenshire
- Parish Maritime - Aberdeenshire
- Former Region Grampian
- Former District Maritime
- Former County Not Applicable
NK01SE 8001 unlocated
NLO: Buchan Ness [name: NK 137 422].
Formerly entered as NK01SE 8331 at cited location NK 0863 1397 (N57 13 W1 51.4167): location also formerly cited as NK c. 08 13 [N57 12 W1 52]. Classification formerly entered as ketch.
26 October 1898, PREMIER, 16 years, of Grimsby, wood dandy. 86 ton. 13 men. Master J. Loch. Owner Mrs E.J. Loch, Grimsby. Grimsby to fishing, ballast, wind SW4. About 15 miles S by W of Buchan Ness. Casualties involving total loss of vessel during year end 30 June 1899.
Source: PP Abstracts of Shipping Casualties on Coasts, or in Rivers and Harbours, of UK July 1898-99 (1900 [Cd. 318] LXXVII.531).
NMRS, MS/829/67 (no. 673).
Quality of fix = PA
Horizontal Datum = OGB
Circumstances of Loss Details
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The PREMIER (Dandy type fishing vessel) foundered about 15 miles S by W of Buchanness Lighthouse, Aberdeenshire. Source: Grimsby Loss List.
Surveying Details
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The wreck's position is approximately 57 13 00N, 001 51 25W.
Hydrographic Office 1995.
(Classified as wooden dandy, in ballast: date of loss cited as 26 October 1898). Premier: this vessel foundered about 15 miles SxW from Buchanness [Buchan Ness]. Capt. Loch.
Registration: Grimsby. Built 1882. 86 tons register.
(Location of loss cited as N57 13.0 W1 51.0).
I G Whittaker 1998.
The map sheet assigned to this record is essentially tentative, being derived from the locations cited by Whittaker and UKHO. The cited location falls about 13km NE of Aberdeen, and the loss may have occurred within the quasi-administrative area designated as Maritime - City of Aberdeen.
Information from RCAHMS (RJCM), 19 February 2008.
Reference (2011)
Whittaker ID : 2265
Name : PREMIER
Latitude : 571300
Longitude : 15100
Date Built : 1882
Registration : GRIMSBY
Type : DANDY (WOOD)
Tonnage : 86
Position : Position Approximate
Loss Day : 26
Loss Month : 10
Loss Year : 1898
Comment : Foundered approx 15 miles SxW of Buchanness. Capt. Loch
Cargo : BALLAST
Reference (19 April 2012)
UKHO Identifier : 002238
Feature Class : Wreck
State : DEAD
Classification : Unclassified
Position (Lat/long) : 57.21667,-1.85694
Horizontal Datum : ORDNANCE SURVEY OF GREAT BRITAIN (1936)
WGS84 Position (Lat/long) : 57.21647,-1.85862
WGS84 Origin : 3-D Cartesian Shift (BW)
Position Quality : Unreliable
Depth Quality : Depth unknown
Water Depth : 57
Vertical Datum : Lowest Astronomical Tide
Name : PREMIER
Type : DANDY
Tonnage : 86
Tonnage Type : Gross
Date Sunk : 26/10/1898
Contact Description : Entire wreck
Original Sensor : Reported Sinking
Original Detection Year : 1898
Original Source : Other
Circumstances of Loss : **FOUNDERED. (GRIMSBY LOSS LIST).
Surveying Details : **4.8.72 FOUNDERED ABOUT 15MILES S BY W OF BUCHANNESS LT HOUSE, ABERDEENSHIRE. (GRIMSBY LOSS LIST). POSN 571300N, 015125W FOR FILING ONLY.
POSITIONS BELOW THIS POINT ARE IN DEGREES, MINUTES AND DECIMALS OF A MINUTE
**HH091/155/01 2.3.10 NOT LOCATED BY M/B. (GARDLINE HYDRO, HI 1155). AMEND DEAD. NCA.
Charting Comments : POSN FOR FILING ONLY
Date Last Amended : 02/03/2010