Archaeology Notes

Event ID 759406

Category Descriptive Accounts

Type Archaeology Notes

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NS14SE 8001 1867 4179

N55 38.15 W4 52.8667

NLO: Saltcoats [name: NS 245 413]

Ardrossan [name: NS 230 420].

Formerly entered as NS14SE 1 and NS14SE 9369.

For alternative locations at NR 8819 5363 and NR 9069 5363 (both in Kilbrannnan Sound), see NR85SE 8001 and NR95SW 8002 respectively.

For summary article and descriptive bibliographic references, see NR95SW 8002.

Quality of fix = HF

Evidence = Estimated

Horizontal Datum = OGB

General water depth = 59

Circumstances of Loss Details

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The submarine HMS VANDAL was lost while exercising in the Firth of Clyde in Inchmarnoch Water and Kilbrannan Sound, just after first commissioning. A smoke canister washed ashore off Loch Ranza, NW coast Isle of Arran.

Report by Naval History Branch.

Surveying Details

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2 February 1978. A wreck was located whilst minehunting in the general depth of 60 metres. Its dimensions - 20 metres (65 feet) long and 5.5 metres high. These measurements were determined by sonar. It is thought possibly to be the wreck of a submarine.

Report by HMS BRONNINGTON, 30 December 1977.

Note: possibly the wreck of HMS VANDAL - Wrecks Officer, but see also 55 43 47N, 005 22 25W.

13 May 1985. The site was not relocated during basic area sonar search. No further investigation was carried out and the given position was not disproved.

Report by HMS BEAGLE.

Hydrographic Office, 1995.

Unknown [submarine]: Hydro [UKHO] suggest U boat, but a bit short.

Length: 20m.

(Location cited as N55 38.15 W4 52.87).

I G Whittaker 1998.

In view of the identification of the submarine loss NR95SW 8002 as HMS/M Vandal, the significance of this record is unclear.

Information from RCAHMS (RJCM), 18 March 2004.

Listed ('HMS Vandal') as Designated vessel ['Protected Place'] under PMRA 1986: no location specified.

MS/5253.

This wreck is charted [Wk] as wire-swept to 50m depth 2nm WSW of Ardrossan. It apparentl;y lies near the foot of the main drop-off into the glacial trough of the firth. No seabed type is indicated nearby.

Information from RCAHMS (RJCM), 6 April 2010.

UKHO chart no. 2131 (1976, amended 1996).