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Sms G103: Gutter Sound, Scapa Flow, Orkney
Destroyer (20th Century)
Site Name Sms G103: Gutter Sound, Scapa Flow, Orkney
Classification Destroyer (20th Century)
Alternative Name(s) G-103; Hoy; Fara; Rysa Little; Locheilar; Moray Firth; G103
Canmore ID 102282
Site Number ND39NW 8044
NGR ND 31523 97931
NGR Description Removed to NJ c. 926 674
Datum WGS84 - Lat/Long
Permalink http://canmore.org.uk/site/102282
- Council Orkney Islands
- Parish Maritime - Orkney
- Former Region Orkney Islands Area
- Former District Maritime
- Former County Not Applicable
ND39NW 8044 3161 9810 removed to NJ c. 926 674
N58 51.9167 W3 11.15
NLO: Gutter Sound [name centred ND 316 968]
Fara [name: ND 329 959]
Stromness [name: HY 253 090]
Scapa Flow [name centred HY 36 00].
See also NJ96NW 8036 [secondary location].
For other ships within this group, see:
ND39NW 8009 V129 (destroyer)
ND39NW 8011 S136 (destroyer)
ND39NW 8012 G92 (destroyer: probable secondary location)
ND39NW 8016 S52 (destroyer)
ND39NW 8018 V70 (destroyer)
ND39NW 8019 S53 (destroyer)
ND39NW 8020 G89 (destroyer: possible secondary location)
ND39NW 8021 S55 (destroyer)
ND39NW 8022 G91 (destroyer)
ND39NW 8023 S36 (destroyer)
ND39NW 8024 S32 (destroyer)
ND39NW 8026 G86 (destroyer)
ND39NW 8027 G39 (destroyer)
ND39NW 8028 G35 (destroyer: identity uncertain)
ND39NW 8029 S138 (destroyer)
ND39NW 8030 S53 (destroyer: identity uncertain and possible secondary location)
ND39NW 8031 G40 (destroyer)
ND39NW 8032 B110 (destroyer)
ND39NW 8033 B112 (destroyer: possible secondary location)
ND39NW 8034 B109 (destroyer)
ND39NW 8036 G104 (destroyer)
ND39NW 8037 G101 (destroyer)
ND39NW 8038 V83 (destroyer: secondary location)
ND39NW 8053 B109 (destroyer: secondary location)
ND39NW 8055 S56 (destroyer)
ND39NW 8057 G38 (destroyer)
ND39NW 8058 H145 (destroyer: possible secondary location)
ND39NW 8059 B111 (destroyer)
ND39NW 8062 V127 (destroyer: possible secondary location)
ND39NW 8063 V126 (destroyer: secondary location)
ND39NW 8064 V125 (destroyer: secondary location)
ND39NW 8065 V82 (destroyer: secondary location)
ND39NW 8066 V81 (destroyer: initial location)
ND39NW 8068 V43 (destroyer)
ND39NW 8069 V100 (destroyer)
ND39NW 8070 V73 (destroyer)
ND39NW 8071 V80 (destroyer)
ND39NW 8072 S60 (destroyer)
ND39NW 8073 S51 (destroyer)
ND39NW 8074 S137 (destroyer)
ND39NW 8075 V128 (destroyer: doubtful location)
ND39NW 8076 V78 (destroyer: probable secondary location)
ND39NW 8077 S65 (destroyer)
ND39NW 8078 V46 (destroyer)
ND39NW 8079 V44 (destroyer: secondary location)
ND39NW 8082 G102 (destroyer: secondary location)
ND39NW 8083 S132 (destroyer: secondary location)
ND39SW 8002 V45 (destroyer: secondary location, probably formerly on ND39NW)
ND39SW 8005 S131 (destroyer: secondary location, probably formerly on ND39NW)
ND39SW 8012 S50 (destroyer: secondary location, probably formerly on ND39NW)
ND39SW 8013 S49 (destroyer: secondary location, probably formerly on ND39NW)
ND39SE 8003 S54 (destroyer: secondary location, probably formerly on ND39NW)
(All the above locations are apparently primary unless otherwise specified).
Formerly entered as ND39NW 8821.
For general plans of High Seas Fleet (Internment Formation) wrecks in Scapa Flow, see Van der Vat 1986 (endpapers), Smith 1989, 4, Macdonald 1998, 19 and George 1999, 35.
SMS G103: no. II flotilla, with G101, G102, V100, B109, B110 (leader), B111, B112 and G104.
D Van der Vat 1986.
Raised by Cox and Danks, 1925: subsequently foundered [at unstated location].
P L Smith 1989.
Noted but not numbered: attributed to 3rd Division of No. 2 Flotilla.
G Ridley 1992.
Horizontal Datum = OGB
Buoyage =
General water depth = 19
Circumstances of Loss Details
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The German destroyer G103 was scuttled.
Surveying Details
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1919. A dangerous wreck, with a least depth of 5.4 metres, is reported at 58 51 55N, 003 11 09W.
1924. The wreck was handed over to Messrs Cox and Danks.
1925. An unsuccesful attempt to dock was made, but later she was raised and towed to Mill Bay. She left for Granton, but was driven ashore in the Moray Firth.
23 October 1939. The vessel's original position is now charted as a foul anchorage.
2 July 1980. Now charted as foul ground.
Hydrographic Office, 1995.
Final stranding at 'Locheilar' (N57 41.92 W2 7.43: NJ 926 676) noted, 25 November 1925.
I G Whittaker 1998.
This vessel is considered a 'casualty' rather than a craft on account of its successful salvage, the available evidence being written rather than material. In the absence of diver survey, however, artifacts, fittings and, possibly, structural elements may survive on or in the seabed at the location of scuttling. Depressions in the seabed may also represent the locations of the turrets or superstructure.
Information from RCAHMS (RJCM), 10 January 2003.
Length: 312ft 8ins (95.3m)
Beam: 31ft 3ins (9.5m)
Displacement: 1116/1734 tons
Propulsion: steam turbines; 2 propellers; 28,000/29,500 hp; 32/34 kts
Armament: 3 x 89mm (3.5in) [later 3 x 104mm (4.1in)] guns; 6 x 60cm (19.7in) torpedo tubes; 24 mines
Complement: c. 130
SMS G103. This ship was built by Krupp's Germania Yard, Kiel (having originally been ordered by Argentina), being launched on 14 November 1914, and was completed in 1915 as the third unit of the four-strong G101 class (itself a variant of the B97 class). She was raised by Cox and Danks on 30 September 1925 [date also cited as 1926] but foundered [also cited as stranded] in a storm off northern Scotland while on her way to breaking.
The cited location of this wreck is apparently primary. It falls outside the northern entrance to Gutter Sound, about 450m NE of Rysa Little.
This ship may be considered as falling within the Fara/Rysa (Gutter Sound) group of destroyers and torpedo craft, which were scuttled within the area of Gutter Sound [name centred ND 316 968]. This area of water may be understood as a narrow sheltered passage between the islands of Hoy, Fara and Rysa Little, to the W of the broad expanse of Scapa Flow. It has a level seabed at a charted depth of between 13 and 16m; the seabed type is indicated sparingly but is apparently a mixture of gravel, shingle and sand. Apart from the specifically-indicated wrecks, extensive areas of foul and spoil ground and numerous obstructions attest to the former presence of the High Seas Fleet. Wrecks (Wk or Wks) are noted at N58 50.3 W3 11.3 [ND 314 951], N58 50.75 [ND 310 959] and around N58 50.7 W3 11.5 [HY 312 958], the latter annotation having a buoy immediately to the W. Areas of foul ground are charted around N58 49.7 W3 10.5 [ND 321 939], N58 50.05 W3 10.9 [ND 317 946] and N58 51.l3 W3 10.7 [ND 320 969].
The recorded identical locations for ships in this group may reflect their being moored in trots.
Information from RCAHMS (RJCM), 6 June 2003.
H M Le Fleming 1961; D Van der Vat 1986; S C George 1999; [Jane] 2001.
HO chart no. 35 (1980, revised 1991).
Reference (19 April 2012)
UKHO Identifier : 001048
Feature Class : Obstn
Obstruction Category : Foul ground
State : LIVE
Classification : Unclassified
Position (Lat/long) : 58.86330,-3.18892
Horizontal Datum : ETRS 1989
WGS84 Position (Lat/long) : 58.86330,-3.18892
WGS84 Origin : Original
Previous Position : 58.86528,-3.18583
Position Quality : Precisely known
Depth Quality : Depth unknown
Water Depth : 19
Vertical Datum : Mean Low Water Springs
Name : G103
Type : DESTROYER
Flag : GERMAN
Length : 95.1
Beam : 9.4
Tonnage : 1116
Tonnage Type : Displacement
Date Sunk : 21/06/1919
Contact Description : Notable debris
Original Sensor : Observed Sinking
Last Sensor : Acoustic Sensor
Original Detection Year : 1919
Last Detection Year : 2010
Original Source : Other
Last Source : Survey Vessel
Circumstances of Loss : SCUTTLED.
Surveying Details : **H8464/19 DWP, LEAST DEPTH 3FMS, SHOWN IN 585155N, 031109W ON SURVEY [C7953]. BR STD.
**H6229/23 13.7.23 INS ON NE 3729 & - NM 1523/23.
**CP 30134/24 HANDED OVER TO MESSRS COX AND DANKS.
**CP 33470/25 UNSUCCESFUL ATTEMPT TO DOCK.
**CP 28202/25 & CP 29262/25 READY TO LIFT.
**CP 29914/25, CP 32507/25, CP 31345/25 RAISED AND TOWED TO MILL BAY.
**CP 36196/25 LEFT FOR GRANTON.
**CP 36968/25 DRIVEN ASHORE IN MORAY FIRTH.
**H143/26 29.5.26 NO LONGER CHARTED. DELETE. - NM 874/26.
**23.10.39 ORIGINAL POSN NOW CHARTED AS FOUL ANCHORAGE.
**2.7.80 NOW CHARTED AS FOUL GROUND.
POSITIONS BELOW THIS POINT ARE IN DEGREES, MINUTES AND DECIMALS OF A MINUTE
**7.10.10 EXAM'D IN 5851.7983N, 0311.3350W [WGD] USING DGPS. LEAST M/B DEPTH 16.58MTRS. (FATHOMS LTD, POST SDC BATHY REPROCESSING). AMEND FOUL IN REVISED POSN. BR STD.
Chart Symbol : F
Date Last Amended : 07/10/2010
Date Position Last Amended : 07/10/2010