Festing Grindall: Carr Brigs, Fife Ness, North Sea
Steam Trawler (20th Century), Trawler (20th Century)
Site Name Festing Grindall: Carr Brigs, Fife Ness, North Sea
Classification Steam Trawler (20th Century), Trawler (20th Century)
Alternative Name(s) A630; 'one Mile North Of Fifeness Point'; Carr Briggs; North Carr Beacon; Outer Forth Estuary; Outer Tay Estuary; Firth Of Forth; Firth Of Tay
Canmore ID 96724
Site Number NO61SW 8005
NGR NO 64417 11627
Datum WGS84 - Lat/Long
Permalink http://canmore.org.uk/site/96724
- Council Fife
- Parish Maritime - Fife
- Former Region Fife
- Former District Maritime
- Former County Not Applicable
NO61SW 8193 6441 1162
N56 17.75 W2 34.5
NLO: Carr Brigs [name: NO 645 113]
Fife Ness [name: NO 638 098]
North Carr Beacon [name: NO 647 115].
Formerly entered as NO61SW 8193.
Horizontal Datum = UND
Circumstances of Loss Details
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The vessel went ashore 1 mile north (true) of Fifeness Point on voyage from Aberdeen to Granton. The crew of 9 landed in their own boat. The trawler is very damaged and total loss.
Source; Lloyds List 4 October 1928.
Surveying Details
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6 October 1928. The vessel's position is given as 56 19 00N, 002 36 00W. 1 minute N (true) from Fifeness Point. The forepart is high and dry. The mast and superstructure is visible at all tides. The vessel is likely to become a total wreck.
Source: Coastguard report 4 October 1928.
6 November 1928. The weather is worse with no signs of improvement. A very heavy sea is breaking over the vessel. The Salvage Association does not consider refloating practicable.
Source: Lloyds.
Hydrographic Office 1995.
(Classified as steel, steam trawler: registration cited as A 630, and date of loss as 4 October 1928). Festing Grindall: this vessel stranded 1 mile (true) North of Fifeness Point [Fife Ness].
Registration: Aberdeen. Built 1916. 236grt. Length: 35m. Beam: 7m.
(Location of loss cited as N56 17.70 W2 34.50).
I G Whittaker 1998.
The location assigned to this record remains unverified, but is accepted. The cited location falls 315m WNW of the North Carr Beacon (NO61SW 25, at NO 6471 1153).
UKHO chart no. 175 (1977, revised 1996) notes no wreck in this area, which has a charted depth of between 10 and 15m, and slopes to the NE. There is no indication of seabed type.
Information from RCAHMS (RJCM), 24 August 2010.
Loss (4 October 1928)
(Classified as steel, steam trawler: registration cited as A 630, and date of loss as 4 October 1928). Festing Grindall: this vessel stranded 1 mile (true) North of Fifeness Point [Fife Ness].
Registration: Aberdeen. Built 1916. 236grt. Length: 35m. Beam: 7m.
(Location of loss cited as N56 17.70 W2 34.50).
I G Whittaker 1998.
Evidence Of Loss (1995)
Horizontal Datum = UND
Circumstances of Loss Details
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The vessel went ashore 1 mile north (true) of Fifeness Point on voyage from Aberdeen to Granton. The crew of 9 landed in their own boat. The trawler is very damaged and total loss.
Source; Lloyds List 4 October 1928.
Surveying Details
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6 October 1928. The vessel's position is given as 56 19 00N, 002 36 00W. 1 minute N (true) from Fifeness Point. The forepart is high and dry. The mast and superstructure is visible at all tides. The vessel is likely to become a total wreck.
Source: Coastguard report 4 October 1928.
6 November 1928. The weather is worse with no signs of improvement. A very heavy sea is breaking over the vessel. The Salvage Association does not consider refloating practicable.
Source: Lloyds.
Hydrographic Office 1995.
Note (24 August 2010)
The location assigned to this record remains unverified, but is accepted. The cited location falls 315m WNW of the North Carr Beacon (NO61SW 25, at NO 6471 1153).
UKHO chart no. 175 (1977, revised 1996) notes no wreck in this area, which has a charted depth of between 10 and 15m, and slopes to the NE. There is no indication of seabed type.
Information from RCAHMS (RJCM), 24 August 2010.
Reference (2011)
Whittaker ID : 57
Name : FESTING GRINDALL (A 630)
Latitude : 561742
Longitude : 23430
Date Built : 1916
Registration : ABERDEEN
Type : STEAM TRAWLER(STEEL)
Tonnage : 236
Tonnage Code : G
Length : 35
Beam : 7
Draught : 4m
Loss Day : 4
Loss Month : 10
Loss Year : 1928
Comment : Stranded 1 mile (true) N of Fifeness Pt.
Reference (19 April 2012)
UKHO Identifier : 002985
Feature Class : Wreck
State : DEAD
Classification : Unclassified
Position (Lat/long) : 56.29583,-2.57500
Horizontal Datum : ORDNANCE SURVEY OF GREAT BRITAIN (1936)
WGS84 Position (Lat/long) : 56.29574,-2.57652
WGS84 Origin : 3-D Cartesian Shift (BW)
Previous Position : 56.29583,-2.57500
Position Quality : Unreliable
Depth Quality : Depth unknown
Water Depth : 10
Vertical Datum : Lowest Astronomical Tide
Name : FESTING GRINDALL
Type : S TRAWLER
Flag : BRITISH
Length : 35.7
Beam : 7.0
Draught : 4.0
Tonnage : 236
Tonnage Type : Gross
Cargo : BALLAST
Date Sunk : 04/10/1928
Contact Description : Entire wreck
Original Sensor : Reported Sinking
Original Detection Year : 1928
Original Source : Other
Circumstances of Loss : **BUILT IN 1917 BY SMITH'S DOCK CO LTD, MIDDLESBROUGH FOR THE ROYAL NAVY. SOLD OUT OF SERVICE IN 1920. OWNED AT TIME OF LOSS BY W RICHARD LEWIS. ONE BOILER, TRIPLE EXPANSION ENGINE OF 78HP, SINGLE SHAFT. PASSAGE ABERDEEN FOR GRANTON FOR BUNKERS. DROVE ASHORE AND WAS WRECKED. CREW RECOVERED. (SIBI).
Surveying Details : **H10/28 6.10.28 SUNK IN 161900N, 023600W. 1MIN N (TRUE) FROM FIFENESS POINT. FORE PART HIGH AND DRY MAST AND SUPERSTRUCTURE VISIBLE AT ALL STATES OF THE TIDE. LIKELY TO BECOME A TOTAL WK. (COASTGUARD REPORT, 4.10.28).
**6.11.28 WEATHER WORSE, NO SIGNS OF IMPROVEMENT. VERY HEAVY SEA BREAKING OVER VESSEL. SALVAGE ASSOCIATION DOES NOT CONSIDER REFLOATING PRACTICABLE. (LL).
**FILING POSN: 561745N, 023430W.
POSITIONS BELOW THIS POINT ARE IN DEGREES, MINUTES AND DECIMALS OF A MINUTE
**HH091/061/01 26.1.04 NOT LOCATED. (NP 1016, HI 1061). AMEND DEAD. NCA.
**HH091/152/01 16.6.08 NOT LOCATED BY M/B. (GARDLINE HYDRO, HI 1152). NCA.
Charting Comments : POSN FOR FILING ONLY
Date Last Amended : 26/01/2004
Date Position Last Amended : 27/08/2003
