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Othonna (Possibly): Fife Ness, North Sea

Craft (Possible)

Site Name Othonna (Possibly): Fife Ness, North Sea

Classification Craft (Possible)

Alternative Name(s) Outer Forth Estuary; Outer Tay Estuary; Firth Of Forth; Firth Of Tay; Unknown; Othonna (Possibly)

Canmore ID 96673

Site Number NO60NE 8002

NGR NO 69192 06334

Datum WGS84 - Lat/Long

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  • Council Fife
  • Parish Maritime - Fife
  • Former Region Fife
  • Former District Maritime
  • Former County Not Applicable

Archaeology Notes

NO60NE 8002 6919 0633

N56 14.9167 W2 29.8333

NLO: Fife Ness (name: NO 638 098).

Formerly entered as NO60NE 8142

Horizontal Datum = OGB

General water depth = 42

Surveying Details

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24 March 1919. A wreck is reported at 56 14 59N, 002 29 50W by the Senior Naval Officer, Granton.

28 August 1960. The site was not found during echosounder and sonar search.

Report by HMS SCOTT, 1959.

25 August 1977. Nothing located by HMS SHIPHAM.

19 January 1994. Site not found.

Report by Oceonics (UK) Ltd.

Hydrographic Office, 1995.

Activities

External Reference (1995)

Horizontal Datum = OGB

General water depth = 42

Surveying Details

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24 March 1919. A wreck is reported at 56 14 59N, 002 29 50W by the Senior Naval Officer, Granton.

28 August 1960. The site was not found during echosounder and sonar search.

Report by HMS SCOTT, 1959.

25 August 1977. Nothing located by HMS SHIPHAM.

19 January 1994. Site not found.

Report by Oceonics (UK) Ltd.

Hydrographic Office, 1995.

Evidence Of Loss (1998)

(No classification or cargo specified: date of loss cited as 20 April 1917, reported 1919). Othonna (possibly). [No further information].

(Location cited as N56 14.92 W2 29.83).

I G Whittaker 1998.

External Reference (2009)

(Location of loss cited as c. N56 15.00 W2 30.00 (GPS c. N56 15.00 W2 30.00)).

(Description of vessel and loss: possible wreck noted nearby at N56 14.55 W2 29.50).

B Baird 2009.

Reference (2011)

Whittaker ID : 56

Name : OTHONNA (POSSIBLY)

Latitude : 561455

Longitude : 22950

Position : Position Approximate

Loss Day : 20

Loss Month : 4

Loss Year : 1917

Comment : Reported 1919

Reference (19 April 2012)

UKHO Identifier : 002968

Feature Class : Wreck

State : DEAD

Classification : Unclassified

Position (Lat/long) : 56.24861,-2.49722

Horizontal Datum : ORDNANCE SURVEY OF GREAT BRITAIN (1936)

WGS84 Position (Lat/long) : 56.24852,-2.49875

WGS84 Origin : 3-D Cartesian Shift (BW)

Position Quality : Unreliable

Depth Quality : Depth unknown

Water Depth : 42

Vertical Datum : Lowest Astronomical Tide

Name : UNKNOWN

Contact Description : Entire wreck

Original Sensor : None reported

Original Detection Year : 1919

Original Source : Other

Surveying Details : **H2501/19 24.3.19 WK IN 561459N, 022950W. (SNO GRANTON). INS WK. - NM 1074/19.

**29.3.23 AMEND OBSOLETE WK SYMBOL TO DW (1919).

**H2618/60 28.7.60 NOT FOUND DURING E/S AND SONAR SEARCH. (HMS SCOTT, 1959). AMEND TO NDW. - NM 1411/60.

**6.11.72 AMEND TO USCPA 15FMS. NE 1407.

**H4818/75 25.8.77 NOTHING LOCATED BY HMS SHIPHAM. (HI 42/76).

**HH090/605/01 19.1.94 NOT FOUND. (OCEONICS (UK) LTD., HI 605). DELETE. BR STD.

Charting Comments : POSN FOR FILING ONLY

Date Last Amended : 20/10/2003

Named Location (Nlo) (12 March 2012)

NLO: Fife Ness (name: NO 638 098).

Formerly entered as NO60NE 8142.

Named Location (Nlo) (12 March 2012)

NLO: Fife Ness (name: NO 638 098).

See also NO60NE 8009.

Note (12 March 2012)

(Location entered as NO 6919 0633 [N56 14.9167 W2 29.8333]). In the absence of any demonstrable wreck remains, the significance of this record remains unclear.

The cited location lies about 2.6nm SE of Fife Ness in a general depth of about 45m. UKHO chart no 190 (1978, revised 1996) charts the seabed locally as roughly flat; a variety of seabed types is charted across the area.

The tentative equation of this apparent wreck with the reported loss of the Othonna that is cited by Whittaker remains unverified.

Information from RCAHMS (RJCM), 12 March 2012.

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