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Algier: Atlantic

Motor Ship (20th Century), Motor Vessel (20th Century)

Site Name Algier: Atlantic

Classification Motor Ship (20th Century), Motor Vessel (20th Century)

Alternative Name(s) '15 Miles Nnw Of Foula'; Algier

Canmore ID 102910

Site Number HT85NW 8001

NGR HT 81567 55446

NGR Description HT c. 81 55

Datum WGS84 - Lat/Long

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  • Parish Maritime - Offshore
  • Former Region Not Applicable
  • Former District Not Applicable
  • Former County Not Applicable

Archaeology Notes

HT85NW 8001 c. 81 55

N60 17 W2 20

NLO: Foula [name: HT 95 39].

Location of loss formerly entered as HT 8156 5544 [N60 17 W2 20].

Quality of fix = PA

Horizontal Datum = OGB

Circumstances of Loss Details

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The Danish motor vessel ALGIER was torpedoed and sunk by German submarine U38. The crew were picked up from the lifeboat 15 miles NNW of Foula.

Source: Dictionary of Disasters at Sea.

Surveying Details

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A doubtful position from the wreck of 60 17 00N, 002 49 00W was given.

Source: World War II Shipping Losses

13 December 1977. The site was not found, but not positively disproved.

Report by HMS HERALD, 19 August 1977.

Hydrographic Office, 1995.

(Classified as motorship [motor ship]: no cargo specified, but date of loss cited as 20 March 1940). Algier: this vessel was torpedoed 15 miles NNW of Foula by U-38 at German position AN1283. (alternative position: 6017/0249).

Registration: Danish. 1654grt. Length: 6m. Beam: 12m.

(Location of loss cited as N60 17.0 W2 20.0).

I G Whittaker 1998.

The location assigned to this record remains uinverified.

Information from RCAHMS (RJCM), 26 September 2007.

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Reference (2011)

Whittaker ID : 2417

Name : ALGIER

Latitude : 601700

Longitude : 22000

Registration : DANISH

Type : MOTORSHIP

Tonnage : 1654

Tonnage Code : G

Length : 66

Beam : 12

Draught : 5m

Position : Position Doubtful

Loss Day : 20

Loss Month : 3

Loss Year : 1940

Comment : Torped 15 mls NNW of Foula by U38 at German position AN1283 (Alt pos. 6017/0249)

Reference (19 April 2012)

UKHO Identifier : 000029

Feature Class : Wreck

State : LIVE

Classification : Unclassified

Position (Lat/long) : 60.28333,-2.33333

Horizontal Datum : ORDNANCE SURVEY OF GREAT BRITAIN (1936)

WGS84 Position (Lat/long) : 60.28277,-2.33512

WGS84 Origin : 3-D Cartesian Shift (BW)

Previous Position : 60.41667,-2.33333

Position Quality : Unreliable

Depth Quality : Depth unknown

Water Depth : 100

Vertical Datum : Lowest Astronomical Tide

Name : ALGIER

Type : MV

Flag : DANISH

Length : 66.4

Beam : 12.2

Draught : 5.2

Tonnage : 1654

Tonnage Type : Gross

Cargo : GENERAL, INC. COPPER WIRE

Date Sunk : 20/03/1940

Contact Description : Entire wreck

Original Sensor : Reported Sinking

Original Detection Year : 1940

Original Source : Other

Circumstances of Loss : **VESSEL BUILT 1938. OWNED AT TIME OF LOSS BY DET FORENEDE DAMPSKIBS SELSKAB. ON PASSAGE NEW YORK FOR OSLO AND COPENHAGEN, TORPEDOED BY U-38. CREW RECOVERED FROM LIFEBOAT THE FOLLOWING DAY, FIVE LIVES WERE LOST, WHEN 15M NNW OF FOULA. THOUGHT TO HAVE TWO DECKS WITH CARGO OF 48 TONS COPPER WIRE, 248 TONS COPPER RODS. (WEALTH FROM THE SEA & DODS).

Surveying Details : **WRECK IN 601700N, 024900W APPROX. (LLWWII, AXIS SUBMARINE SUCCESSES).

**H3050/72 13.12.77 NOT FOUND, BUT NOT POSITIVELY DISPROVED. (HMS HERALD, ROS DTD 19.8.77).

**20.11.78 INS AS USC PA 100MTRS IN 602500N, 022000W. (AUTHORITY NOT STATED). NC 1233.

**13.1.81 AMEND TO USC PA 54FMS. NE 219.

**H1270/81 22.1.81 AMEND TO USC 100MTRS. NE 2182C.

**4.2.85 NOT SHOWN ON ANY SCALE.

POSITIONS BELOW THIS POINT ARE IN DEGREES, MINUTES AND DECIMALS OF A MINUTE

Charting Comments : POSN TOO VAGUE TO CHART

Date Last Amended : 02/10/2000

Date Position Last Amended : 08/10/1984

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