Algier: Atlantic
Motor Ship (20th Century), Motor Vessel (20th Century)
Site Name Algier: Atlantic
Classification Motor Ship (20th Century), Motor Vessel (20th Century)
Alternative Name(s) '15 Miles Nnw Of Foula'; Algier
Canmore ID 102910
Site Number HT85NW 8001
NGR HT 81567 55446
NGR Description HT c. 81 55
Datum WGS84 - Lat/Long
Permalink http://canmore.org.uk/site/102910
- Council Maritime
- Parish Maritime - Offshore
- Former Region Not Applicable
- Former District Not Applicable
- Former County Not Applicable
HT85NW 8001 c. 81 55
N60 17 W2 20
NLO: Foula [name: HT 95 39].
Location of loss formerly entered as HT 8156 5544 [N60 17 W2 20].
Quality of fix = PA
Horizontal Datum = OGB
Circumstances of Loss Details
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The Danish motor vessel ALGIER was torpedoed and sunk by German submarine U38. The crew were picked up from the lifeboat 15 miles NNW of Foula.
Source: Dictionary of Disasters at Sea.
Surveying Details
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A doubtful position from the wreck of 60 17 00N, 002 49 00W was given.
Source: World War II Shipping Losses
13 December 1977. The site was not found, but not positively disproved.
Report by HMS HERALD, 19 August 1977.
Hydrographic Office, 1995.
(Classified as motorship [motor ship]: no cargo specified, but date of loss cited as 20 March 1940). Algier: this vessel was torpedoed 15 miles NNW of Foula by U-38 at German position AN1283. (alternative position: 6017/0249).
Registration: Danish. 1654grt. Length: 6m. Beam: 12m.
(Location of loss cited as N60 17.0 W2 20.0).
I G Whittaker 1998.
The location assigned to this record remains uinverified.
Information from RCAHMS (RJCM), 26 September 2007.
Reference (2011)
Whittaker ID : 2417
Name : ALGIER
Latitude : 601700
Longitude : 22000
Registration : DANISH
Type : MOTORSHIP
Tonnage : 1654
Tonnage Code : G
Length : 66
Beam : 12
Draught : 5m
Position : Position Doubtful
Loss Day : 20
Loss Month : 3
Loss Year : 1940
Comment : Torped 15 mls NNW of Foula by U38 at German position AN1283 (Alt pos. 6017/0249)
Reference (19 April 2012)
UKHO Identifier : 000029
Feature Class : Wreck
State : LIVE
Classification : Unclassified
Position (Lat/long) : 60.28333,-2.33333
Horizontal Datum : ORDNANCE SURVEY OF GREAT BRITAIN (1936)
WGS84 Position (Lat/long) : 60.28277,-2.33512
WGS84 Origin : 3-D Cartesian Shift (BW)
Previous Position : 60.41667,-2.33333
Position Quality : Unreliable
Depth Quality : Depth unknown
Water Depth : 100
Vertical Datum : Lowest Astronomical Tide
Name : ALGIER
Type : MV
Flag : DANISH
Length : 66.4
Beam : 12.2
Draught : 5.2
Tonnage : 1654
Tonnage Type : Gross
Cargo : GENERAL, INC. COPPER WIRE
Date Sunk : 20/03/1940
Contact Description : Entire wreck
Original Sensor : Reported Sinking
Original Detection Year : 1940
Original Source : Other
Circumstances of Loss : **VESSEL BUILT 1938. OWNED AT TIME OF LOSS BY DET FORENEDE DAMPSKIBS SELSKAB. ON PASSAGE NEW YORK FOR OSLO AND COPENHAGEN, TORPEDOED BY U-38. CREW RECOVERED FROM LIFEBOAT THE FOLLOWING DAY, FIVE LIVES WERE LOST, WHEN 15M NNW OF FOULA. THOUGHT TO HAVE TWO DECKS WITH CARGO OF 48 TONS COPPER WIRE, 248 TONS COPPER RODS. (WEALTH FROM THE SEA & DODS).
Surveying Details : **WRECK IN 601700N, 024900W APPROX. (LLWWII, AXIS SUBMARINE SUCCESSES).
**H3050/72 13.12.77 NOT FOUND, BUT NOT POSITIVELY DISPROVED. (HMS HERALD, ROS DTD 19.8.77).
**20.11.78 INS AS USC PA 100MTRS IN 602500N, 022000W. (AUTHORITY NOT STATED). NC 1233.
**13.1.81 AMEND TO USC PA 54FMS. NE 219.
**H1270/81 22.1.81 AMEND TO USC 100MTRS. NE 2182C.
**4.2.85 NOT SHOWN ON ANY SCALE.
POSITIONS BELOW THIS POINT ARE IN DEGREES, MINUTES AND DECIMALS OF A MINUTE
Charting Comments : POSN TOO VAGUE TO CHART
Date Last Amended : 02/10/2000
Date Position Last Amended : 08/10/1984
