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Unknown: Skate Point, Great Cumbrae Island, Firth Of Clyde

Submarine (20th Century)

Site Name Unknown: Skate Point, Great Cumbrae Island, Firth Of Clyde

Classification Submarine (20th Century)

Alternative Name(s) Inner Clyde Estuary; Unknown

Canmore ID 102754

Site Number NS15NE 8003

NGR NS 15885 58656

Datum WGS84 - Lat/Long

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Administrative Areas

  • Council North Ayrshire
  • Parish Maritime - North Ayrshire
  • Former Region Strathclyde
  • Former District Maritime
  • Former County Not Applicable

Archaeology Notes

NS15NE 8003 1588 5865

N55 47.1667 W4 56.2

NLO: Skate Point [name: NS 163 584]

Great Cumbrae Island [name centred NS 17 57].

Formerly entered as NS15NE 9389.

Quality of fix = PA

Horizontal Datum = OGB

General water depth = 34

Surveying Details

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9 October 1981. The wreck of a submarine is reported to have been located off Skate Point, Great Cumbrae Island. It lies in about 33.5 metres with all hatch covers closed and rocks over the bow. It may possibly be HMS VANDAL, which was lost by accident on 24 February 1943 (see 55 38 09N, 004 52 52W & 55 43 47N, 005 22 25W).

Report by D Mcentee, 25 September 1981.

Note: This could be the mistaken identification of the wreck of the BEAGLE - see 55 47 18N, 004 56 34W.

12 May 1986. The site was not found during basic sonar search (150 metre range).

Report by HMS GLEANER.

Hydrographic Office, 1995.

Activities

Reference (19 April 2012)

UKHO Identifier : 004144

Feature Class : Wreck

Wreck Category : Non-dangerous wreck

State : DEAD

Classification : Unclassified

Position (Lat/long) : 55.78611,-4.93667

Horizontal Datum : ORDNANCE SURVEY OF GREAT BRITAIN (1936)

WGS84 Position (Lat/long) : 55.78605,-4.93784

WGS84 Origin : 3-D Cartesian Shift (BW)

Position Quality : Unreliable

Depth Quality : Depth unknown

Water Depth : 34

Vertical Datum : Lowest Astronomical Tide

Name : UNKNOWN

Type : SUBMARINE

Bottom Texture : Sand

Contact Description : Entire wreck

Original Sensor : None reported

Original Detection Year : 1981

Original Source : Other

Surveying Details : **H1310/81/27 9.10.81 WK OF A SUBMARINE REPD TO HAVE BEEN LOCATED OFF SKATE POINT, GREAT CUMBRAE ISLAND. LIES IN ABOUT 110FT WITH ALL HATCH COVERS CLOSED AND ROCKS OVER THE BOW. MAY POSSIBLY BE HMS VANDAL, WHICH WAS LOST BY ACCIDENT 24.2.1943. (D. MCENTEE, 25.9.81). NCA, POSN FOR FILING ONLY.

**H2885/83 12.5.86 NOT FOUND DURING BASIC SONAR SEARCH ON 150MTR RANGE. (HMSML GLEANER, HI 165C). AMENDED TO DEAD.

Charting Comments : POSN FOR FILING ONLY

Date Last Amended : 24/06/2003

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