Glenshiel: Cleiteadh Dubh, Arran, Firth Of Clyde
Craft, Steamship
Site Name Glenshiel: Cleiteadh Dubh, Arran, Firth Of Clyde
Classification Craft, Steamship
Alternative Name(s) Slidderywater Foot; Outer Clyde Estuary; Glenshiel
Canmore ID 102708
Site Number NR92SW 8009
NGR NR 92390 22253
Datum WGS84 - Lat/Long
Permalink http://canmore.org.uk/site/102708
- Council North Ayrshire
- Parish Maritime - North Ayrshire
- Former Region Strathclyde
- Former District Maritime
- Former County Not Applicable
NR92SW 8009 9243 2321
N55 27 W5 17
Formerly entered as NR92SW 9341.
Quality of fix = PA
Evidence = Divers Report
Horizontal Datum = OGB
General water depth = 3
Surveying Details
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4 November 1982. The wreck of the GLENSHIEL lies, v broken up, close inshore in about 3 metres of water, about 1 kilmetre NW of the mouth of Sliddery Water. The wreck shows at all states of tide. Rusting metal colours the water. OS map reference given converts to 55 26 19N, 005 15 13W.
Source; BSAC Wreck Register.
25 May 1984. Nothing found at this position. It is thought that the BSAC Wreck Register are referring to the KYLE SKYE at approximately 55 26 00N, 005 15 00W.
Report by D Johnston, 20 May 1984.
2 May 1986. The wreck was not found during investigation. Nothing shows above the lowest astronomical spring tide mark.
Report by HMS BULLDOG.
Hydrographic Office, 1995.
The name cited suggests that this vessel was a puffer of the Glen Line.
Information from RCAHMS (RJCM), 21 November 2001.
Reference (19 April 2012)
UKHO Identifier : 004004
Feature Class : Wreck
State : DEAD
Classification : Unclassified
Position (Lat/long) : 55.45000,-5.28333
Horizontal Datum : ORDNANCE SURVEY OF GREAT BRITAIN (1936)
WGS84 Position (Lat/long) : 55.44998,-5.28444
WGS84 Origin : 3-D Cartesian Shift (BW)
Position Quality : Unreliable
Depth : 1.0
Depth Method : Found by diver
Depth Quality : Least depth known
Water Depth : 1
Water Level Effect : Always under water/submerged
Vertical Datum : Lowest Astronomical Tide
Name : GLENSHIEL
Type : SS
Flag : BRITISH
Contact Description : Notable debris
Original Sensor : None reported
Original Detection Year : 1982
Original Source : Other
Surveying Details : **4.11.82 LIES, V BROKEN UP, CLOSE INSHORE IN ABOUT 3MTRS OF WATER, ABOUT 1KM NW OF MOUTH OF SLIDDERY WATER. SHOWS AT ALL STATES OF TIDE. RUSTING METAL COLOURS THE WATER. (BSAC WK REGISTER). (OS MAP REFERENCE GIVEN, CONVERTS TO 552619N, 051513W).
**H1310/84/17 25.5.84 NOTHING FOUND IN THIS POSN. IT IS THOUGHT THAT BSAC ARE REFERRING TO THE KYLE SKYE, SEE [4012], IN 552600N, 051500W SPPROX. (D JOHNSTON, LTR DTD 20.5.84).
**H2885/83 2.5.86 NOT FOUND DURING INVESTIGATION USING SMB. NOTHING SHOWS ABOVE CD. (HMS BULLDOG, HI 165B). NCA, AMENDED TO DEAD.
Charting Comments : POSN FOR FILING ONLY
Date Last Amended : 25/04/2005
Desk Based Assessment (28 November 2014)
The Glen Shiel is recorded as having been built by Livingston & Co, Peterhead (HMSO 1974; Moir and Crawford 2004: 137)
Information from Sally Evans (Cotswold Archaeology), 28/11/2014.
Project (October 2014 - April 2015)
The maritime archaeology of the Clyde has been identified as a focus for a major study of human interaction with the river through time by the RCAHMS following on from recommendations by the Scottish Archaeological Research Framework (ScARF). Source to
Sea has been developed as the long-term research programme, of which the research into human connections with the River Clyde forms part. This project has comprised a study of the surviving shipwreck heritage of Clyde-built vessels lost within the Clyde estuary and Firth of Clyde.
This project has collated information from a range of sources and has enhanced knowledge of Clyde-built wrecks within the Clyde. In particular information from recreational divers has proved invaluable and has been the source of detailed information about the current condition of many Clyde-built wrecks, useful for on-going management. A number of wrecks previously recorded as of unknown identity in the RCAHMS database were positively identified during the project and more accurate positional information was established for a number of other wrecks. Additionally, the project identified a potentially significant wreck (Margaret Niven) the remains of which were not previously recorded. This project has also identified a number of other potentially significant wrecks within the Clyde, which reflect both its unique contributions to world-wide shipbuilding and local connections. These wrecks include paddle steamers (Lapwing and Princess of Wales), Clyde Puffers (e.g. Margaret Niven), steam-yachts with military connections (HMS Breda), a dredger (Greenock) and an 18th-century West Indiaman (Lady Margaret). Numerous other wrecks have been identified by this project, and all display some degree of significance.
Information from Sally Evans (Cotswold Archaeology) April 2015
