Thrive: North Sea
Steam Trawler (20th Century), Trawler (20th Century)
Site Name Thrive: North Sea
Classification Steam Trawler (20th Century), Trawler (20th Century)
Alternative Name(s) '7 Miles Ese Of The [isle Of] May'; May Island; Lh 34; J M Ross; Bass Rock; Outer Forth Estuary; Firth Of Forth; Thrive; Thrive (Lh 34) (Ex. J M Ross)
Canmore ID 102066
Site Number NT79NE 8002
NGR NT 79202 97865
Datum WGS84 - Lat/Long
Permalink http://canmore.org.uk/site/102066
- Council Maritime
- Parish Maritime - Offshore
- Former Region Not Applicable
- Former District Not Applicable
- Former County Not Applicable
NT79NE 8002 7919 9786
N56 10.3833 W2 20.1
NLO: Isle of May [name: NT 65 99]
Bass Rock (name: NT 602 873).
Formerly entered as NT79NE 8602.
Quality of fix = PA
Horizontal Datum = UND
Surveying Details
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28 March 1949. A wreck was reported at position 56 10 23N, 002 20 06W.
3 August 1977. No wrecks were found within an area 2.5 miles east thru north to west from 56 10 10N, 002 18 45W.
Report by HMS FOX.
Hydrographic Office, 1995.
(Classified as motor yawl: no cargo specified, but fishing registration number cited as LH 34, former name as J M Ross, and date of loss as 19 February 1946). Thrive: this vessel blew up off the Bass Rock after catching a mine in her nets 7 miles ESE of the [Isle of] May.
Registration: Cockenzie. Built 1914. 9grt. Length: 10m. Beam: 4m.
(Location of loss cited as N56 10.38 W2 20.10).
I G Whittaker 1998.
The map sheet and quasi-administrative area assigned to this record are essentially arbitrary. The loss of this vessel may have occurred within the area designated as Maritime - East Lothian.
The classification and location of loss cited by Whittaker remain unverified.
Information from RCAHMS (RJCM), 7 March 2002.
Loss (19 February 1946)
(Classified as motor yawl: no cargo specified, but fishing registration number cited as LH 34, former name as J M Ross, and date of loss as 19 February 1946). Thrive: this vessel blew up off the Bass Rock after catching a mine in her nets 7 miles ESE of the [Isle of] May.
Registration: Cockenzie. Built 1914. 9grt. Length: 10m. Beam: 4m.
(Location of loss cited as N56 10.38 W2 20.10).
I G Whittaker 1998.
(Location cited as N56 10.23 W2 20.06 [Position Approximate]).
(Description of loss: suggested but unverified location cited as N56 10.23 W2 20.06).
B Baird 2009.
Evidence Of Loss (1995)
Quality of fix = PA
Horizontal Datum = UND
Surveying Details
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28 March 1949. A wreck was reported at position 56 10 23N, 002 20 06W.
3 August 1977. No wrecks were found within an area 2.5 miles east thru north to west from 56 10 10N, 002 18 45W.
Report by HMS FOX.
Hydrographic Office, 1995.
Reference (2011)
Whittaker ID : 2189
Name : THRIVE (LH 34) (EX. J M ROSS)
Latitude : 561023
Longitude : 22006
Date Built : 1914
Registration : COCKENZIE
Type : MOTOR YAWL
Tonnage : 9
Tonnage Code : G
Length : 10
Beam : 4
Loss Day : 19
Loss Month : 2
Loss Year : 1946
Comment : Blew-up off Bass rock after catching a mine in her nets 7 miles ESE of the May.
Reference (19 April 2012)
UKHO Identifier : 002947
Feature Class : Wreck
State : DEAD
Classification : Unclassified
Position (Lat/long) : 56.17306,-2.33500
Horizontal Datum : ORDNANCE SURVEY OF GREAT BRITAIN (1936)
WGS84 Position (Lat/long) : 56.17298,-2.33655
WGS84 Origin : 3-D Cartesian Shift (BW)
Previous Position : 56.17305,-2.33500
Position Quality : Unreliable
Depth Quality : Depth unknown
Water Depth : 60
Vertical Datum : Lowest Astronomical Tide
Name : THRIVE
Type : S TRAWLER
Flag : BRITISH
Date Sunk : 20/02/1946
Contact Description : Entire wreck
Original Sensor : Reported Sinking
Original Detection Year : 1946
Original Source : Other
Circumstances of Loss : **STEEL TRAWLER. TRIPLE EXPANSION ENGINE, SINGLE SHAFT. PICKED UP MINE IN NETS BEWEEN BASS ROCK AND THE ISLE OF MAY. WHILST BEING CUT CLEAR IT DETONATED AND VESSEL SANK. (SIBI).
Surveying Details : **H1900/49 28.3.49 POSN 561023N, 022006W. (W.S. 120/49). INS AS NDWPA. BR STD.
**7.11.72 AMEND TO USCPA 20FMS. NE 1407.
**H4818/75 3.8.77 NO WKS FOUND WITHIN AREA 2.5MILES E THRU N TO W FROM 561010N, 021845W. (HMS FOX, HI 34A/77). DELETE. BR STD.
Charting Comments : POSN FOR FILING ONLY
Date Last Amended : 20/10/2003
Date Position Last Amended : 20/10/2003
Note (8 March 2012)
The map sheet and quasi-administrative area assigned to this record are essentially arbitrary, being derived from the unverified location that is cited by Whittaker. The loss of this vessel may have occurred within the area designated as Maritime - East Lothian.
The loss of this vessel is re-entered as a Casualty rather than a Wreck on the grounds of the absence of demonstrable wreck remains.The classification and location of loss cited by Whittaker remain unverified, but are accepted.
Information from RCAHMS (RJCM), 8 March 2012.
Named Location (Nlo) (8 March 2012)
NLO: Isle of May [name: NT 65 99]
Bass Rock (name: NT 602 873).
Formerly entered as NT79NE 8602 (wreck) at cited location NT 7919 9786 [N56 10.3833 W2 20.1].
