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Alfred Erlandsen: Ebb Carrs, St Abbs, North Sea

Obstruction (20th Century), Steamship (20th Century)

Site Name Alfred Erlandsen: Ebb Carrs, St Abbs, North Sea

Classification Obstruction (20th Century), Steamship (20th Century)

Alternative Name(s) Alfred Earlandsen; Ebb Carr Rock; St Abbs Head; Alfred Erlandsen; Margarets

Canmore ID 101588

Site Number NT96NW 8009

NGR NT 92288 67124

Datum WGS84 - Lat/Long

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Administrative Areas

  • Council Scottish Borders, The
  • Parish Maritime - Scottish Borders, The
  • Former Region Borders
  • Former District Maritime
  • Former County Not Applicable

Archaeology Notes

NT96NW 8009 9228 6712

N55 53.8333 W2 7.4

NLO: St Abbs Head [name: NT 911 694]

Ebb Carrs [name: NT 924 671].

ALFRED EARLANDSEN, 954 TON GROSS, STEAMER. 207.6' X 31.2' X 14.1'. Danish. The wreck lies at the SE of Ebb Carrs, at grid ref 924 672, within the St Abbs Head Wildlife and Marine Reserve. It is completely broken up, with boilers remaining.

Source: Butland & Siedlecki, BSAC Wreck Register, Scotland 1. 1987.

Quality of fix = PA

Horizontal Datum = OGB

General water depth = 13

Circumstances of Loss Details

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The vessel was wrecked on Ebb Carrs in thick fog, with the loss of all hands.

Source: Lloyds, P Baker 11 January 1975.

Surveying Details

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The approximate position given is 55 53 50N, 002 07 30W.

7 December 1982. The wreck is described as completely broken up. The vessel's name is given as either ALFRED EARLSDEN or ALFRED ERLANDSEN. The site lies to the west of wreck of the VIGILANT.

Source: BSAC Wreck register Vol 7.

15 January 1985. The wreck lies at 55 53 50N, 002 07 24W.

Source: W Murney, 7 January 1985.

Hydrographic Office 1995.

(Classified as steel steamship, with cargo of pit props: date of loss cited as 17 October 1907). This vessel was wrecked on Ebb Carr Rock, St Abbs.

I G Whittaker 1998.

The dispersed remains of this wreck are situated in a gullied rocky environment at depths of between 10 and 15m, and at least partially within the kelp zone. Identifiable elements [indicated on sketch plan] include a sternpost, a windlass, plating and a probable A-frame. Two boilers are apparent, although only one has previously been noted.

Information from Mrs A Fuller-Shapcott (NAS/DWAP), visited 25 August 2003.

NMRS, MS/1615.

Activities

Reference (2011)

Whittaker ID : 1

Name : margarets

Latitude : 555342

Longitude : 20714

Date Built : 1890

Registration : DANISH

Type : SS (STEEL)

Tonnage : 954

Tonnage Code : G

Length : 70

Beam : 10

Draught : 5m

Position : Position Approximate

Loss Day : 17

Loss Month : 10

Loss Year : 1907

Comment : Wrecked on Ebb Carr Rock, St Abbs. Capt. Larsen

Cargo : PIT PROPS

Reference (19 April 2012)

UKHO Identifier : 004215

Feature Class : Obstn

Obstruction Category : Foul ground

State : LIVE

Classification : Unclassified

Position (Lat/long) : 55.89718,-2.12490

Horizontal Datum : ETRS 1989

WGS84 Position (Lat/long) : 55.89718,-2.12490

WGS84 Origin : Original

Previous Position : 55.89722,-2.12333

Position Quality : Precisely known

Depth Quality : Depth unknown

Water Depth : 13

Vertical Datum : Lowest Astronomical Tide

Name : ALFRED ERLANDSEN

Type : SS

Flag : DANISH

Length : 63.4

Beam : 9.4

Draught : 4.3

Tonnage : 954

Tonnage Type : Gross

Cargo : PITPROPS

Date Sunk : 17/10/1907

Bottom Texture : Rock

Contact Description : Entire wreck

Original Sensor : Observed Sinking

Last Sensor : Diver Sighting

Original Detection Year : 1907

Last Detection Year : 1985

Original Source : Unknown

Last Source : Divers

Circumstances of Loss : **WRECKED ON EBB CARRS IN THICK FOG, WITH LOSS OF ALL HANDS. (LLOYDS).

Surveying Details : **POSN 555350N, 020730W APPROX. (AUTHORITY NOT STATED)

**7.12.82 DESCRIBED AS COMPLETELY BROKEN UP. NAME GIVEN AS EITHER ALFRED EARLSDEN OR ALFRED ERLANDSEN. LIES TO THE WEST OF WK OF VIGILANT. (BSAC WK REGISTER, VOL 6)

**H1310/85/2 15.1.85 LIES IN 555350N, 020724W. (W MURNEY, 7.1.85).

POSITIONS BELOW THIS POINT ARE IN DEGREES, MINUTES AND DECIMALS OF A MINUTE

**28.4.99 INS AS FOUL. BR STD.

**HH090/915/01 17.1.02 NOT LOCATED. (GARDLINE, HI 915). NCA.

**[WGD] POSN: 5553.831N, 0207.494W.

General Comments : COMPLETELY BROKEN UP

Chart Symbol : F

Date Last Amended : 19/07/2010

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